Powerbeats Pro vs. Powerbeats 3

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Powerbeats Pro launched last week, and the first orders are now in the hands of customers. We already did a Powerbeats Pro vs. AirPods hands-on comparison, but we got requests for a video detailing how the new Powerbeats Pro compare to the previous-generation Powerbeats 3 Wireless Earphones.

    Today, we're taking a look at whether it's worth upgrading to the Powerbeats Pro if you've already got the Powerbeats 3, or if it's worth spending the extra cash if you're trying to decide between the two.

    Powerbeats 3 have been around for a few years now, and are available at prices as low as $90, making them much more affordable than the $250 Powerbeats Pro, but feature wise, the Powerbeats Pro pack in a lot of functionality for that extra price increase.

    When it comes to design, the Powerbeats 3 and the Powerbeats Pro look rather similar as both feature earhooks to keep them in place along with in-ear earbuds that block out ambient noise, but the designs aren't quite the same.


    The Powerbeats 3 have an earhook that's angled upwards and an earpiece that's slightly shorter, while the Powerbeats Pro have an earhook that better contours to the ear. The biggest design difference is, of course, the cable that connects the Powerbeats 3 as these are not wire-free headphones like the Powerbeats Pro.

    A wire-free design is unquestionably better than a wired design in most situations, but a wire does make sure you're not going to lose a single earbud because they're tethered together. That might be preferable for some people.

    Both Powerbeats 3 and Powerbeats Pro are comfortable thanks to the four eartips in different sizes, but we preferred the fit and the feel of the Powerbeats Pro. The new angle just gives them a better fit in the ear, but there's not a huge amount of difference between the two. The earhooks on the Powerbeats Pro seem durable and more sturdy compared to the earhooks on the Powerbeats 3, and we didn't get the impression that they're going to be prone to breakage.


    Powerbeats 3 have a single physical button to power them on and off and they come with a remote on the wire for controlling media playback. Powerbeats Pro have no wire, so there are physical buttons on the earbuds themselves for controlling media and changing the volume.

    Powerbeats Pro come with a battery case that provides extra power, and while the Powerbeats 3 have a case, it's a flimsy little silicone thing that's only meant to give you a way to carry them around. Powerbeats 3 boast 12 hours of battery life while Powerbeats Pro are limited to nine hours, but you do get up to 24 hours of additional battery life with the aforementioned battery case.


    Powerbeats 3 have a W1 chip, much like the original AirPods, which allows for simple device pairing and switching, but it's not as simple as the Powerbeats Pro pairing. With Powerbeats Pro, you just open the case near an Apple device and the pairing process is initiated, but with Powerbeats 3, you need to hold down the power button for five seconds.

    Powerbeats Pro have an updated H1 chip that allows for faster pairing than with the W1, hands-free "Hey Siri" support (you need to push a button to use Siri on Powerbeats 3), and improved range, plus the Powerbeats Pro support Bluetooth 5 so you're going to get a better connection and longer range.

    As for sound, we thought the Powerbeats Pro sounded better than the Powerbeats 3 because they're more balanced. The Powerbeats 3 are bass heavy and that muddies the sound in some songs, a problem the Powerbeats Pro don't have. Powerbeats 3 don't sound bad, but they don't sound as good as Powerbeats Pro.


    Sweat and water resistance is going to be a major question, and it's not something that can be addressed properly without longer periods of testing and moisture exposure over time. Powerbeats Pro have an IPX4 water resistance rating, which means they've been tested and can hold up to splashes of water, while the Powerbeats 3 have no specific Ingress Protection rating.

    That suggests the Powerbeats Pro are going to better hold up to moisture than the Powerbeats 3, but it's going to take more testing and exposure to sweat over time to get a clearer picture of how durable these new earbuds are.

    There have been a lot of complaints about Powerbeats 3 failing due to sweat exposure, so hopefully this is a problem adequately addressed by the sweat and water resistance Apple promises in Powerbeats Pro.

    Overall, the Powerbeats 3 are fine headphones, but the Powerbeats Pro are better in almost every way. There's a huge price difference between the two, but if price isn't much of a factor and you're aiming for convenience, the Powerbeats Pro are the clear winner and are worth the purchase or the upgrade.

    Article Link: Powerbeats Pro vs. Powerbeats 3
  2. aesc80 macrumors 6502


    Mar 24, 2015
    Powerbeats 3 does win in 1 area - availability numbers.
  3. mcfrazieriv macrumors 6502a


    Jan 30, 2012
    Irvine, CA
    How's the EMF on these bad boys? Still deep in your ear canal at 10mG?
  4. MKevin3 macrumors newbie


    Aug 10, 2016
    Is it just me or do the cyan ones shown look they were just 3d printed by a first time user? Pretty boxy and not very elegant looking. Looks like a first draft before sanding and shaping.
  5. MauiPa macrumors 6502

    Apr 18, 2018
    "There have been a lot of complaints about Powerbeats 3 failing due to sweat exposure". More like a "few" or "some" than a lot. There are a lot of praises for how well they stand up to sweat exposure as well.

    I recently replaced my silicone tips with foam tips on my powerbeats3. it definitely changed the sound profile and kept a lot more ambient noise out. I'd tell you they sounded better or worse, but that is pretty subjective, so its meaningless, but I do like it that way.

    Overall. I still prefer my wife's AirPods 2 sound quality, they just sound brilliant and clear. I have searched for professional reviews, but none of the so-called "pros" are measuring the results and telling you how they did it, so I question their conclusions. If they are testing using Spotify and SBC codec for example (no AptX), well enough said. I am using Apple Music and the AAC codec and am quite pleased with the sound quality. There are those who say the Power Beats Pro far surpass the AirPods in sound quality, but I am a bit skeptical.
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    just you
  6. Goompa macrumors member


    Oct 29, 2018
    Not buying ANYTHING wireless again.
    My AirPods now last less than 3 minutes... Not worth spending 170 on a device that is going to become a figurine on your table.

    At last they should keep operating when the battery is dead (like in some headphones).
  7. AustinIllini macrumors demi-goddess


    Oct 20, 2011
    Austin, TX
    The AirPods battery is a huge problem. I'm not paying $150 ever other year to replace them.
  8. santaliqueur macrumors 6502a

    Aug 7, 2007
    Good luck on "not buying anything wireless again". You sound like one of these dudes in 2008 that was ABSOLUTELY CONVINCED they would never buy a smartphone with a touch screen. I guess if you have an active eBay account, you will be able to find wired stuff for years to come!

    3 minutes? So you cannot even play a single song on your AirPods? I must have been extremely lucky with my launch day AirPods still lasting several hours despite me wearing them 50+ hours a week.
  9. vahdyx macrumors regular


    Sep 17, 2014
    Powerbeats > Airpods in my situation. My ear canals are too big and those puppies fall out way too much, so having the over the ear piece makes it actually usable for me.

    PowerBeats vs Powerbeats 3... well I guess I don't care enough.
  10. slippery-pete macrumors 65816


    Jun 23, 2007
    3 minutes?
  11. WPI MIDI Man macrumors newbie

    Feb 17, 2011
    Massachusetts, USA
    My experience with wireless Bluetooth headphones has been that they don't last worth a darn. Even thought the sound quality is sub-optimal, I'll stick to the cheap $20 models I can find on Amazon and just be prepared to buy a new set every 6 months or so (if I'm lucky). Since I only use them while running, the sound quality isn't a huge deal for me. If I am doing more critical listening, I'll use my Bose QC35 headphones or, better yet, connect a pair of high quality wired headphones via the Lightning to audio adapter (doesn't work on the Apple Watch, though).
  12. littyboy macrumors 6502a

    Jun 12, 2009
    If I'm not mistaken, this is due to the constant charging/topping off as you put them back in the case. To maximize battery life/health, you're supposed to fully empty the battery before charging back up again. If there was a way to turn off charging while its in the case if the battery isn't full, this would help a lot. I don't know the physics behind this but I've seen it mentioned before regarding battery health.
  13. az431 Suspended


    Sep 13, 2008
    Portland, OR
    It's going to be a big adjustment throwing your phone in the trash.
  14. bobob macrumors 68030


    Jan 11, 2008
    That is the equivalent of a subscription of $6.25/month.

    If I found my AirPods so useful that I completely wore out the batteries in just 2 years, I would happily pay that much.

    However as it turns out, although I do indeed love my AirPods, I'm a much lighter user of them and my batteries are all still fine after 2 years. I expect to get 5 years out of them before the battery life impacts my own use case. That brings my own monthly AirPods cost down to $2.50
  15. kizaw macrumors newbie


    Nov 17, 2009
    New York
    Received my Power Beats Pro today and after listening I put them right back in the box to return to Apple. The sound quality is just blah. I'm used to the Bose Free Sound Sports and these PBP's don't even come close in sound quality. To me all the other features mean nothing unless you have optimal sound quality. And these do not have it.
  16. Goompa macrumors member


    Oct 29, 2018
    A pair of $170 headphones, should last more than 2 years... Im not against wireless stuff, just make sure that they have a second option (wired) or nice technology.
  17. Mac Fly (film) macrumors 65816

    Mac Fly (film)

    Feb 12, 2006
    Unsure what the last bit means. Personally, I’m grand with EarPods.
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    acorntoy macrumors 65816

    May 25, 2010

    People seem to forget that cheap ($10-$90) earphones that use a wire break, a lot, because of the wire. It's usually the weak point in the earphones. I used to go through a pair every couple months, if my AirPods died tomorrow I would still have saved a significant amount of money in the last two years because they don't have the failure prone wire.

    For example: The wired version of AirPods reviews. https://www.apple.com/shop/reviews/MMTN2AM/A/earpods-with-lightning-connector?page=0&rf=1

    Most didn't even last a year let alone 2.
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    EarPods with 3.5 mm Headphone Plug

    EarPods with Lightning Connector
  19. scottinlexky macrumors member


    Dec 6, 2016
    anything with the name BEATS on it is synonymous with over priced. give it up Apple
  20. haddy macrumors regular

    Nov 5, 2012
    Well... I have just bought/received the Bose Free Sound Sports, mainly on the basis of recommendations on this board as well as my use of the wired Bose noise cancelling ear pods. Sound quality is the most important feature for me.
  21. triton100 macrumors 6502

    Dec 15, 2010
    This is what I was waiting to find out. Sounds like I won’t be getting them either then. I have the sennheisser momentum true wireless in ears. And they are on a par with the Bose sport or arguably better. I would have loved to have had the easy pairing though as swapping between devices is a pain. But like u say it’s sound quality first all the way.
  22. SteveJUAE macrumors 68030


    Aug 14, 2015
    Land of Smiles
    Do they have a loudness control for that logo :rolleyes:
  23. MauiPa macrumors 6502

    Apr 18, 2018
    This is a rather confusing post. Am I right to translate it to mean that after x (undisclosed months/years) the batteries in your AirPods are no longer working? Also you expect a wireless device that runs on batteries to keep running when the batteries are no longer working? LOL, I wish my flashlight did that too.

    The only thing I can say if x is less than 3 years or so and you did not expose them to water/sweat (they are not resistant) than you have a legitimate gripe. If x is > than 3 years or you got them wet, well that is a problem with devices without replaceable batteries and/or getting electronics that are not water resistant wet.
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    You must be right because people keep buying them. I know I have a pair of powerbeats3, love them. (OK, truthfully, I only paid $99)
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    Is that still a thing? I know years ago, battery experts used to say that about batteries. I thought that was no longer the case, starting about 10-years ago.
  24. Goompa macrumors member


    Oct 29, 2018
    As far as I remember, I still have my other headphones WORKING like brand new (all my other headphones have detachable aux cable).

    Did I expose them to water/sweat? mmm Probably!
    Did I know at the beginning that they were going to die because of sweat? OFC NOT!
    Some of us are not that smart you know!
  25. bubsdaddy macrumors regular

    Mar 5, 2008
    The Woodlands, TX
    I think the complete discharge requirement was for Ni-mh rechargeable batteries. Most devices now use Lithium ion batteries and do not require full discharge.


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