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Originally posted by MacBoyX
Dennis,

First of all these forums are not at all a place to be so agressive. I was simply giving Dougnet99 my OPINIONS on the two 12" Mac Notebooks.

Since you had to go there, my iBook IS NOT PAINTED IN ANYWAY SHAPE OR FORM. The outside of my iBook is made of a white acylic material and is not painted. My worry about the PAINTED KEYBOARD on the PowerBook is not unfounded as the keys will get quite a work out.

I do think that my iBook is better than a 12" PowerBook for WHAT I NEED TO DO WITH IT. I didn't know we had to compare which machine is better than another...

The one thing I can say I have learned since I switched from PCs to Macs is to look at what I need to do before I decide what hardware to buy.

I will state for the record my OPINON once again...the 12" PB and 12" iBook are both awesome Macs, but for ME...the iBook was a better fit. If you need durability and you do NOT need the Alitvec of the G4, there is nothing wrong with an iBook.

I am glad you like your PowerBook, but you won't make me feel like I have an "inferior" Mac because I decided I really didn't need a G4.

Don't get me wrong, but the 12" powerbook is NOT less durable than the ibook, as you said.
 
Originally posted by dennis88
Don't get me wrong, but the 12" powerbook is NOT less durable than the ibook, as you said.

Dennis,

I am very glad you had better luck than my friend, I still feel that the acrylic of the iBook is going to be more durable than the metal casing of the PowerBook, but to each his own. I will say this, I am glad Apple had the good sense to stop painting their laptop cases as my TiBook got a scratch in it easily since it was painted.

Again, please remember that this is ALL OPINION and my thoughts and feelings.

I am very glad you seem as happy with ur 12" PB as I am with my 12" iBook.


MacBoyX
 
How about an experiment?

Drop baseball from a height of 8 inches onto the casing of the PB 12" and the iBook 12" (underside so as not to see any potential damage).

You will see a dent in the PB 12" and a surface scratch on the iBook 12".

There is no way that the flimsy Aluminum shell is as sturdy as the (much thicker) plastic shell of the iBook.

G3 vs G4 is a tired debate. And the G4 in the 12" PB does not have the L3 cache, much limiting its capabilities in comparison to a "normal" G4.
 
Originally posted by MacBoyX
I highly recommend a 15GB iPod and my other favorite toy...my Canon PowerShot 230. Great Point and Click Camera!

Thanks... I've been considering an iPod, but the only problem being $. Right now, I'm going to get a Digital SLR (waiting for the next upgrade to the high-end Nikon models, or for the Canon-10D prices to go down), and already have a $1000 for it.

Anyother gadgets?
 
Originally posted by dennis88
Don't get me wrong, but the 12" powerbook is NOT less durable than the ibook, as you said.


You've been quite rude to MacBoyX. He could have easily flamed you for making such a ridiculous statement, but he didn't. In fact, anybody here who read your statement could have easily flamed you. MacBoyX let you off easy, completely respecting your opinion instead of responding like you did to him.

The iBook was built to be placed into a backpack with no worries. While the Alu books are durable, they were never meant for the abuse taken by an iBook. --- built for the rigours of student life. The iBook was built with this in mind --- the 12" PB wasn't. The iBook is more sturdy. That can almost be stated as a fact. Again, MacBoyX didn't even bother bashing you for your ridiculous statement, so stop being such an s.o.b to him.

You're right about the keyboard, though. The 12" PB keyboard feels much more durable than the iBooks. Not sure about the paint, but it feels more durable. Also, the keys are tougher to push down, and so its better for lengthy typing.
 
I have a 12" iBook 700 MHz with a combo drive and 384 megabytes of ram. Even though i have only the 700 MHz processor, i have never detected any major pauses during applications, except photoshop. I dont use my iBook for big photoshop jobs, but i will say even at 700 MHz w/o altivec, it still runs fairly well. You won't see all your filters and effects instantly work, but the half second or so slowdown doesn't really bother me. I even play games on it, despite the fact it only has a 16 MB video card. It will not run any game excellently, but for casual gamers it will prove fine. As for the durability issue, as abstract said, you can toss an ibook anywhere and be sure it will be fine. i have accidentally dropped mine off a table while it was on, and not even needed a restart. as for the 12 inch powerbook, not owning one, i cant say whether this applies to it too, but i can say that the skin scratches more easily, even more than the painted iBook (my model).

if you are not planning on using maya or photoshop more than casually, i would definitally recommend the iBook. You will not notice the difference between the 800 MHz ibook and 867 powerbook, let alone the 900 mhz ibook. But if you want to play lots of games or use photoshop or maya freqently.
 
HELP HELP!
Hy guys,I'm Italian and in Italy computer means PC....
Now...I came here for work over a year ago and I started to understand what a Mac really means. When the "SWITCH" campaigncame out I thought someone in Apple was looking at me...I wanna get a laptop and the Albook is simply gorgeous!
I crossed the 17" ( too expensive and far too big) and decided to buy a 12" cause I can take it anywhere.I want to do some video editing of the great places I've been in the States ,but reading all these forums and several sites I'm starting to think it's not powerful enough...So I went for the 15" ...but I found out thatthere is a new one coming out.
The problem is that I'm going back to Europe at the end of June (27th) and I don't know if it will be out (in Italy is much more expensive!).What should I do.Do you think it'll be out by then?
Or the 12" can do the job for me?
Hope you can help!!!
Ciao
 
Originally posted by maxigalaxy
HELP HELP!
Hy guys,I'm Italian and in Italy computer means PC....
Now...I came here for work over a year ago and I started to understand what a Mac really means. When the "SWITCH" campaigncame out I thought someone in Apple was looking at me...I wanna get a laptop and the Albook is simply gorgeous!
I crossed the 17" ( too expensive and far too big) and decided to buy a 12" cause I can take it anywhere.I want to do some video editing of the great places I've been in the States ,but reading all these forums and several sites I'm starting to think it's not powerful enough...So I went for the 15" ...but I found out thatthere is a new one coming out.
The problem is that I'm going back to Europe at the end of June (27th) and I don't know if it will be out (in Italy is much more expensive!).What should I do.Do you think it'll be out by then?
Or the 12" can do the job for me?
Hope you can help!!!
Ciao

Yes, the 12" powerbook can do the job.
And if your going to travel alot the 12" is just an even greater machine!
The 12" powerbook is almost as fast as the 15" 867mhz powerbook in videoediting.

So you can buy the 12" powerbook without worry. :)


And to you other guys, maybe I was a bit rude there, so sorry. :(

By the way, I have just ordered a 15gb ipod! :D
 
Thank you for your help...
I think I'm gonna get a 12" straight away!!!
I will miss for sure some of the features of the next 15",but after all you can't wait for ever...
I think Apple should offer the same features on the three models
and let the customers decide according to different sizes and different performances for their use.I don't see why if you use the 17" you can benefit from the backlit keyboard and if you use the 12" you can't.It should be the other way round since the small one is more portable and more likely used in diffiult situations....
Anyway I will love my mini me....:cool:
 
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