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Originally posted by jvandergriff
Using the more accurate meters, I get 49.6 volts. I could not get a reading on the current - either I did it wrong, or it's not measurable with the equipment I have access to.
That is real, bad, and not supposed to be happening. If it's not funky wiring, then there's something seriously wrong with either your PB or the adapter. 0.02V is for practical purposes zero, but 50V could actually be dangerous. I'm not surprised you were having trouble getting an accurate current measurement, but in any case call Apple.

The funny thing is, I'm pretty sure that the PowerBooks don't use more than 24V DC, so it seems like there shouldn't be that much voltage there unless the outlet wiring is funky.

It sounds like you've already tried it in enough places to rule out bad wiring, but just out of curiosity have you tried looking for a voltage differential between the neutral half of the outlet and actual ground? It'd be an interesting additional piece of info.

In any case, though, that sounds dangerous, so you should call Apple and see what they say.
 
how i bust my ibook

my ibook gave my a shock from the latch just after i had a bath and it broke the track pad i used my mouse untill apple picked it up to fix it, they did but two weeks later it broke again they piked it up they fixed it and you guessed it it broke again i noticed there was a price cut on my ibooks so igot a new one and £100 yay ocasionaly it shocks me but only when my skin is wet other wise its fine.
 
Current running in my Powerbook

billyboy said:
It doesnt sound like static, because I have intermittent buzzes if I use my PB, but no way is it a shock, just a sensation of the current running through the casing. This is down to the supply in the particular house I am in at the moment plus my propensity for static in a town up in the mountains. Some people feel nothing and think I am mad, others feel it and think that them that cant sense anything are lying! It has been like that from the day I first plugged it in here, and didnt appear out the blue like it sounds yours has.

Ever since I moved to Korea (from Canada) to work, I've been getting the same feeling in my powerbook. I've even used a transformer to step down 220V to 110V and still feel the same thing. Can anybody give me a solution to this annoying problem?
Thanks Chucky
 
just use the cord with the ground connector to your powersuppy. don't use the one without the ground connection ;) otherwise you will be the ground connection.
 
superbovine said:
just use the cord with the ground connector to your powersuppy. don't use the one without the ground connection ;) otherwise you will be the ground connection.

I tried that. It didn't work. I still get shocked. :) Anyone else have an already mentioned solution that has always failed to solve the problem?
 
Just a few things

I've been suffering from this problem since my first 400mhz Ti and it's still just as bad with my 800Ti. As I sit here in France with my feet on a plastic mat for insulation, I'm still getting zapped when my elbow touches the window frame. If my foot strays off the mat, BZZZZ. If anyone has any doubts about the validity of the claim, tote your Ti to the garage, where there's bare concrete, plug it in, take off your shoes, plant them on the floor, and then run your wrist over the case. Unplug the power and the problem goes away. The same effect is even more exciting when you touch a cold water pipe!!

Measuring the voltage - You'll need a high impedence volt meter or an oscilloscope to measure the leakage. I used an oscilloscope and measured 60 volts AC. I wasn't able to get a current measurement but it's pretty small. If you try this, measure between the PB case and a cold water pipe or ground-pin on an electric outlet (make sure you know which pin that is). A door knob or most metal in your house won't work.

The problem got really bad when I moved to France and the voltage doubled (230 volt over here). I live in a newly-rewired flat that has all new electrical service, outlets, wire, circuit breaker box, etc. The problem wasn't with the wiring in the house in the US and it's not the problem here in France.

The problem is the Apple power supply. I've read that in the design of "Class III power supplies" they often couple the AC line to the ground pin/wire on the DC cord (the cord that connects the PB to the power adaptor) through CAPACITORS which would explain why you get a high voltage shock with almost no amperage. I've had 60 volt/20 ampere AC shocks from CATV distribution equipment and they'll knock you on your butt.

I am now convinced that this is a design defect, regardless of whether the US government approves the Class III spec for power supplies. I've read hundreds of posts about this and it's a real problem on a large scale. Any electric shock is dangerous to some people. Anyone with electronic implants (pace makers, monitors, etc.) is at risk from even small electric shocks for example.

Apple's support website has quite a collection of posts on the subject but hasn't addressed or so much as answered a single one of them. This is an admission of guilt by omission in my opinion. I've had their forum experts answer my posts in less than an hour when my problem was a TCP/IP issue. Apple always goes silent on issues like this, right up until the USCPSC forces a recall (http://www.cpsc.gov/).

People are getting shocks from their metal-clad Apple P-books. End of discussion. Contact the USCPSC, Apple, ZDnet, every publication you read and get some action going. This is not a "maybe it's just me" thing. I am paying for AppleCare on a machine that gives me a painful electric shock unless I use it with my feet on a plastic mat. I don't need any more proof.
 
12" ibook shock

I have a 12" ibook 500.

For as long as I can remember, I have been getting a mild shock from one of the screws on the bottom of the ibook when I set it on my lap and it contacts the skin on my leg.

It is a continuos flow, not a zap.

At first I thought it was just hot, but it can happen soon after I start using it.
 
billyboy said:
It doesnt sound like static, because I have intermittent buzzes if I use my PB, but no way is it a shock, just a sensation of the current running through the casing. This is down to the supply in the particular house I am in at the moment plus my propensity for static in a town up in the mountains. Some people feel nothing and think I am mad, others feel it and think that them that cant sense anything are lying! It has been like that from the day I first plugged it in here, and didnt appear out the blue like it sounds yours has.

If it has just started shocking you after owning the PB a while then Id suggest some electrical fault has developed. Either get an electrician to check out your powerpoints, or get a technician to check out the adapter and/or Apple to verify the PB.

I feel it too..one of the reasons I don't like the PowerBook line that much. Especially becauae when you ask a salesperson at the Apple store about it, they say it's nothing
 
Related story - sort of - but funny nonetheless

Years ago when my father was working as a repairman for the telephone company in San Francisco, he received a repair order that siad, simply - "Phone rings, dog barks."

When visiting the residence he was told that the dog, which was tied up outside, would yelp and howl everytime the phone rang. The strange thing was, the phone was inside and unless the dog had exceptionally good ears, he couldn't hear the ringing.

Upon investigating the situation, Dad discovered the dog had a metal choke chain and was anchored to the water faucet near the front of the house. The same water pipe that served as the ground for the home's electrical system, including the 105-volt line that used to drive a telephone's ring circuit.

Seems as the dog, would lie on the ground in a puddle of water to keep cool, and was completing the ground circuit. Everytime the phone would ring, a strong jolt of current would run through his metal collar causing him to leap off the ground, thus breaking the circuit and relieving his pain.

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My advice - get your PowerBook to the shop ASAP, not only could you cause serious injury to yourself, a computer that has that kind of jolt is in danger of frying itself from the inside out.
 
just giving my input.


but if it shocks you once the power supply is plugged in then you know it most likely (although not 100%) that it is faulty. switch it with someone you know. check that and if it works......well call apple.
 
my 12" pb that I got a month ago started shocking me today! I've felt some bad static shocks before...and this is NOT static. first i felt it at my elbow from the edge of the pb, then i thought it was just static, but when i tried to take a closer look at the edge my nose touched the edge, and it HURT! It's a constant shock that feels like my skin is getting fried. Definitely calling applecare tomorrow cause this is insane! I know I'm in a place with really high voltage (230V) but the charger/pb is supposed to be able to take this voltage! have to stop typing now cause i get shocked everytime I touch the edge!
 
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