Originally posted by jxyama
MacBoyX,
i agree with most of your points, even if they are coming out a bit more "hostile" (not to me, but maybe to others) than you really intend them to be.
it does NOT bother me when people come here to post things about PCs. it does NOT bother me when people come here to post that PCs are better for such and such reasons... (provided it's moderately true.)
what does bother me is when they complain about Macs because they are not PCs.
"unless Apple does this and that (speed, CPU, hardware, software, etc.), which are already available in PCs, i'm not going to buy one."
FINE. go get a PC, it's not like we don't know these facts. most of us are pretty knowledgeable about computers, period. despite the shortcomings, we choose Macs.
in the case of this post, i agree to a degree that 15" should be updated. and many people are waiting. post and rant away about apple needing to upgrade because he/she is tired of waiting - FINE. "threatening" us that they are gonna go the way of PCs because of apple's shortcoming - FINE, go do it, DON'T BOTHER TELLING US, WE DON'T CARE.
"why should i get a pbook instead of sony, which is cheaper and faster?"
a question like this drive me insane for some reasons:
1) some people happen to believe price and speed aren't the only thing involved in making a decision about the computer purchase.
2) #1 does not make those people "stupid" or "idiot" or whatever
3) consequently, we don't have to "justify" why we think like #1.
keyword is "justify"
people who ask these questions USUALLY assumes we are idiots or blind, or come off as if they do. if they are genuinely interested in knowing why we think like above, don't make us "justify." i just get the vibe all the time that they think it's their duty to make us see the light and put us on the defensive. that's not the way to ask questions.
this is quite long already so i might as well go overboard.
as an example, instead of:
"PCs are cheaper and faster than macs, why should i get a mac?"
say
"despite their general priciness and lack of cutting edge hardware [note: this could still come off as flamebait], people here seem to like macs a lot compared to PCs. could you tell me about aspects of macs that make them so appealing to you?"
Originally posted by Rezet
Well, to me it seems like you are just a PC basher.
Looks are good, but i dont have to sit there all day and look at how cool icon looks and admire Pbook's stylish design. I have stuff to do.
I don't really know what upgrades you are talking about, I'm currently on PC and have been on pc for over 10 years now. And although I had problems with pretty much all of then
I do admire OS X and that is a big part of why i want to switch, but apple isn't making switching easy. If I was driving BMW 7x and lived in a "crib", maybe I didn't care that much. But College is expensive and car payments bite too. Im not complaining about money problem, and hapend it to be upgraded, i wouldnt complain about money at all. But at this point, I think your argument is weak.
This is one of the strengths of the powerbooks, and my laptop's Al skin is quite durable, and truly does not scratch easliy. However, take a look at the magnesium composites found on other laptops, esp., the ultra-lights such as the Dell X200 or the Sony Vaio, or Gateway 200...they can seem flimsy at first, but not plasticy at all. You might be surprised.
Don't be fooled by apple, their times are also theoritical maximums. With regular use, I can get a bit over three hours, rarely have i even approached the theoretical 4.5 hours apple cites. And yes, I have calibrated my battery and such, never that much. And you are correct, the centrino does give the PC laptops an improvement in battery life, a nice improvement. Still Apple's battery life is impressive.
And PCs screens are just as nice, heck even Dell has released a 15.4" 1920x1200 screen. Many high-end laptops have impressive vid cards (not the ultra-lights I know), and the big thing is variety, altho the main screen sizes comparable to Apple's screens in brightness and contrast. Most LCDs are very similar now (non-gaming of course, the vid card being the determining factor...)
I didn't want to base my laptop buying experience on a keyboard, but wow this powerbook keyboard is awesome, rivaled only by IBM's thinkpads. Good plus for Apple
My old, old HP laptop did not have wireless, and the antennae on my PC card is almost falling off from hanging out the PCMCIA slot. But you're right, a lot of PCs have the option of an internal mini-PCI slot for 802.11b. True 802.11g isn't widespread yet, but face it, most people won't use the additional bandwidth that g provides, and when they do, I suppose that PC laptops will included g for many more models.
Powerbooks and Mac OS X are great for user experience, but there are times when OS X hangs...and I have had issues with waking from sleep and also the adapter acts iffy sometimes (due to the ground reference...unplugging and plugging the adaptor does the trick) ...dunno how widespread my problem is.
For me, the powerbook came on top, but there are other factors to consider. The important one is BUDGET, altho' macs are slowly coming down in price (well powerbooks have recently), they are still pricey. I'm still wincing from the 3G that my 17" powerbook has set me back. Other things to consider: compatibility (not much to worry about, but something to consider), the "coolness" factor (lets face it, some still buy stuff because it's "cool"), durability (powerbooks altho' thin, are very durable, and the components should be able to last years), and finally obsoleteness (how long before this computer won't work for the stuff we need it for, G4 vs. G5 or G6 etc., 1 GHz vs. 2 GHz vs dual GHz) etc. Just more things to think about.
You and me both. I even had a sig that said "NO DUAL POWERBOOKS!!! (this year at least...) for a couple of months...but that was last year.
I've changed my mind...I think they'll sell decently, esp. if they give the option to disable the second processor unless necessary, perserving the battery life. And since powerbooks are so expensive, I suppose there will be those willing to spend the extra hundreds for the extra processor, and the extra heat it generates. And it would lessen the "percieved" gap that the G5 presents, and saving powerbook sales. Don't expect duals in a 12" model tho' .).
This is one of the strengths of the powerbooks, and my laptop's Al skin is quite durable, and truly does not scratch easliy. However, take a look at the magnesium composites found on other laptops, esp., the ultra-lights such as the Dell X200 or the Sony Vaio, or Gateway 200...they can seem flimsy at first, but not plasticy at all. You might be surprised.
Don't be fooled by apple, their times are also theoritical maximums. With regular use, I can get a bit over three hours, rarely have i even approached the theoretical 4.5 hours apple cites. And yes, I have calibrated my battery and such, never that much. And you are correct, the centrino does give the PC laptops an improvement in battery life, a nice improvement. Still Apple's battery life is impressive.
And PCs screens are just as nice, heck even Dell has released a 15.4" 1920x1200 screen. Many high-end laptops have impressive vid cards (not the ultra-lights I know), and the big thing is variety, altho the main screen sizes comparable to Apple's screens in brightness and contrast. Most LCDs are very similar now (non-gaming of course, the vid card being the determining factor...)
I didn't want to base my laptop buying experience on a keyboard, but wow this powerbook keyboard is awesome, rivaled only by IBM's thinkpads. Good plus for Apple
My old, old HP laptop did not have wireless, and the antennae on my PC card is almost falling off from hanging out the PCMCIA slot. But you're right, a lot of PCs have the option of an internal mini-PCI slot for 802.11b. True 802.11g isn't widespread yet, but face it, most people won't use the additional bandwidth that g provides, and when they do, I suppose that PC laptops will included g for many more models.
Powerbooks and Mac OS X are great for user experience, but there are times when OS X hangs...and I have had issues with waking from sleep and also the adapter acts iffy sometimes (due to the ground reference...unplugging and plugging the adaptor does the trick) ...dunno how widespread my problem is.
For me, the powerbook came on top, but there are other factors to consider. The important one is BUDGET, altho' macs are slowly coming down in price (well powerbooks have recently), they are still pricey. I'm still wincing from the 3G that my 17" powerbook has set me back. Other things to consider: compatibility (not much to worry about, but something to consider), the "coolness" factor (lets face it, some still buy stuff because it's "cool"), durability (powerbooks altho' thin, are very durable, and the components should be able to last years), and finally obsoleteness (how long before this computer won't work for the stuff we need it for, G4 vs. G5 or G6 etc., 1 GHz vs. 2 GHz vs dual GHz) etc. Just more things to think about.
You and me both. I even had a sig that said "NO DUAL POWERBOOKS!!! (this year at least...) for a couple of months...but that was last year.
I've changed my mind...I think they'll sell decently, esp. if they give the option to disable the second processor unless necessary, perserving the battery life. And since powerbooks are so expensive, I suppose there will be those willing to spend the extra hundreds for the extra processor, and the extra heat it generates. And it would lessen the "percieved" gap that the G5 presents, and saving powerbook sales. Don't expect duals in a 12" model tho' .).