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Originally posted by ffakr
If the FSB issues were related to Apple's inability to create a faster system controller then
a) Moto would make G4s that supported faster FSB for embedded apps (like Cisco's routers which I'm sure would appreciate extra bandwidth), and
b) Apple wouldn't be selling G5s with 1GHz FSB.

Since Moto doesn't market ANY variation of the G4 with a faster FSB, and since Apple has designed a cutting edge system controller for the G5, I think it's safe to say that the FSB issues with the G4 rest squarely on Moto's shoulders.

JMHO. Ffakr
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It's not an inability to produce the system controller - clearly Apple and IBM are capable of doing so... the point is that the system controller for the G5's is too hot to put in a PowerBook...

Bear in mind that the system controller for the G5 is a very different beast to the G4 - the architecture is that different...
 
I *think* the other person was saying that the G5 system controller, that Apple designed, runs too hot to put it in a laptop. Which seems rather obvious to me, since we are talking about two entirely different sets of design goals. You are not going to build one of the fastest desktops in the land and, at the same time, be able to slap that puppy in a laptop. Two design goals, two designs. We just haven't seen the seconds one, yet.
 
Originally posted by daveL
I *think* the other person was saying that the G5 system controller, that Apple designed, runs too hot to put it in a laptop. Which seems rather obvious to me, since we are talking about two entirely different sets of design goals. You are not going to build one of the fastest desktops in the land and, at the same time, be able to slap that puppy in a laptop. Two design goals, two designs. We just haven't seen the seconds one, yet.
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yea, that's what it original post looks like (especially now that I look back on it), but that's a pretty silly argument.
The poster is still saying that the G4 and G3 are neutered because Apple can't produce a system controller that will allow them to run a faster bus.

There is Zero indication that Powerbooks and iBooks run slower buses because Apple in incapable of producing a faster system controller that is laptop friendly.

The fact is the processors don't support fast buses. The only thing Apple may be guilty of is holding back on the iBook specs so that they don't look better on paper than the pro line. This is also partially Motorola's fault. If they weren't 2+ years behind the rest of the industry in processor bus design, Apple wouldn't be in a situation were the 'low end' chips were outperforming the 'flagship' processors.
 
Originally posted by ffakr
yea, that's what it original post looks like (especially now that I look back on it), but that's a pretty silly argument.
The poster is still saying that the G4 and G3 are neutered because Apple can't produce a system controller that will allow them to run a faster bus.
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No I'm *NOT*...

What I said was that the iBook is a neutered to a G3, and the PowerBook is neutered to a G4.

Apple are not going to put G4's into the iBook while they still have G4's in the PowerBook...

And Apple can't put G5's in the PowerBook because the system controller is too hot.

I said nothing about the performance of the G3 or G4 being neutered.
 
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