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Alienware IS a toy

And oooh, that alloy saucer silver chassis part, no no THAT'S not a toy, gimme a break.

You know what kind of company alienware is when you go to their website and there's some geek's idea of a wetdream anime chick with vulcan ears... and that's on their first page! Basically it's a site selling computers to loser gamer geeks who've never seriously kissed a girl, live with their parents, and choke the bishop to, well, lame cheesy unrealistic bad cartoons of chicks with pointy ears that's currently on alienware.

Now professionals that choose the best tools for the job, who make decent money and live on their own or students (or anyone) with discerning taste clearly should be buying Macs and, if they had to, a Dull or Sony ViooOOHHHImnotamac. I'd tip my hat to alienware for style and substance but it's neither. If I walked into a meeting with one of those I'd never be taken seriously and the only attention I'd get would be from 1. loser geeks and 2. okay... that's all the attention I'd get. I had a crowd around me after buying my first TiBook at a little cafe. Owners of peecee laptops gathering around asking what was it, what version of Windows did it run (I laughed at that one), and compliments galore. I think recently Sony did a commercial like that with their VioOOhhImstillnotamac and laughed. I have acquaintances with VioOOOhhnopedefinitelyjusta****tylaptopbySony and I can tell you NOBODY walks up to them when they pop it out of the saddlebags. I still get people asking about mine even while sitting next to friends with the VioOO(you get the picture). PC, ugly, nobody cares, Mac = art = buzz AND style AND substance.

Usually... until now when the processor is getting long in the tooth. I appreciate the naive optimism in this forums but facing facts, we're stuck with the G4 PB a lot longer, at least though this year. Bummer to be sure, but reality is reality, I wish I knew different.

One thing though re: the kiddieware, er, alienware laptop, I actually DO like that being able to swap out videocards from the laptop, this makes total sense as this is probably the one item that gets dated the fastest. I wish Apple would do this but am not holding my breath, Apple, great products always but always one dumb thing or two, lack of video card upgrading has been one of them.

Also, re: kiddiealienware, the prices on those (which was why I went to their site because the poster "conveniently" left the price off, ugly bad cartoons of fake looking supposed alien babes does nothing for me) aren't that great. I admit Apple's mark ups kinda are ridiculous but alienware's uglyass area 51 top of the line laptop costs almost $3700, which is more than the 17 inch Powerbook. Some expensive "toy!" But hey, the kiddieware area 51 comes with, oooh gee whiz... a remote! (???? WTF?)

Puuuhhllease.
 
Re: GOOD NEWS!

Originally posted by ozlow
I asked my magic 8-ball if powerbooks are going to be released on the 16th and if they would be G5...

All points to yes!

Stop the worry! The 8-ball is always right!


YES!! i've been waiting for someone to post a good omen from the magic 8 ball!!.

now i can stop worrying and just chill out for a couple of weeks. 😎
 
Have to make a decision

So help me out here guys ...

Based on rumors, ofcourse, it seems there are 3 options for me to evaluate:

(a) go for a secondhand Powerbook 867 now, saving 1/3rd of the purchasing price
(b) wait for the PPC7457 based update
(c) wait for the IBM based G5 Powerbook in Feb 2004?

Option (b) is pretty much ruled out. Not interesting, don't want to spend my cash on it. (a) is perhaps an interesting option. But waiting for 5-6 months for (c) is not that much of an issue when there is no immediate need for a new computer either. From a cash balancing perspective, moving the powerbook investment 6 months down the line is also interesting simply because I will be spending a lot of money after I've finalized the deal to buy an apartment. Then again, going for (b) now and getting the 1st revision of (c) which is probably 1-1.5 years down the line might also be an interesting idea.

Any thoughts?

(sorry if this is too much off-topic, please pm me if you feel more comfortable)
 
Re: Alienware IS a toy

Originally posted by Photorun
I still get people asking about mine even while sitting next to friends with the VioOO(you get the picture). PC, ugly, nobody cares, Mac = art = buzz AND style AND substance.

So what you're saying is that two elegantly designed laptops side by side and people are more curious about the Mac? I'm not surprised - after all, who is the odd one out? It's the glimpse of the unfamiliar OS that makes the difference (Oooh... no Start button... how does it work... I'm scared...)

That or the fact that - judging by what you say above - you also carry a large sign with the words 'Look at me - the quality of my work matters not, but I want to be seen with something expensive' written on it.

Damn - now I'm getting drawn into the classing Mac/PC childish debate. No better than Sega/Nintendo...

(Sega were best, by the way 😀 )
 
Re: Have to make a decision

Originally posted by gadg
(a) go for a secondhand Powerbook 867 now, saving 1/3rd of the purchasing price
(b) wait for the PPC7457 based update
(c) wait for the IBM based G5 Powerbook in Feb 2004?

The problem with (c) is that Feb 2004 is just a guess. Who knows when G5 Powerbooks will really arrive?
 
Re: Have to make a decision

Originally posted by gadg
(a) go for a secondhand Powerbook 867 now, saving 1/3rd of the purchasing price

I'd say that was the worst option. Batteries wear out, and cost a fair bit - so you're not really saving a 3rd, once you factor in the new battery. The vendor will lie to you about how much they use the battery.

If you've got time, wait. If you're desperate, haggle!
 
Re: Have to make a decision

Originally posted by gadg
So help me out here guys ...

Based on rumors, ofcourse, it seems there are 3 options for me to evaluate:

(a) go for a secondhand Powerbook 867 now, saving 1/3rd of the purchasing price
(b) wait for the PPC7457 based update
(c) wait for the IBM based G5 Powerbook in Feb 2004?

If I were you, I'd go for "a" before the rest of the world realizes what a bright decision it would be.

Squire
 
lol

I should have known I would have been flamed for putting a post like that, but I think you misinterpreted me and focused on a small part of what I was saying.

I personally have never owned a mac. I am a college student and am taking a course in 3D animation (possibly specializing in gaming) and absolutely love OSX and love macs period. The specific brand "alienware" was just an example I used. The point I was trying to make was, for me, and the work that i'm involved in I need a top of the line machine, and right now the current notebook wont cut it.

For me I need something of at least 1.6GHZ+
 
Re: lol

Originally posted by nazariteguitar
For me I need something of at least 1.6GHZ+

You know, I think there might be one or two Mac Heads on here who'll take exception to that as well. 'Processor Clock Speed is no guarntee of quality' they'll say. (It all sounds a bit like blokes comparing things in the showers...)

Of course they're right, up to a point. But, whatever stats they show you, a 3GHz Pentium still beats a 1Ghz G4...
 
Re: lol

Originally posted by nazariteguitar
I should have known I would have been flamed for putting a post like that, but I think you misinterpreted me and focused on a small part of what I was saying.

I personally have never owned a mac. I am a college student and am taking a course in 3D animation (possibly specializing in gaming) and absolutely love OSX and love macs period. The specific brand "alienware" was just an example I used. The point I was trying to make was, for me, and the work that i'm involved in I need a top of the line machine, and right now the current notebook wont cut it.

For me I need something of at least 1.6GHZ+

Actually it was worth it just to get Photorun's post... 😀

The first question to ask yourself is: what OS do my tools run on. You certainly don't want to run 3D tools through VPC...

If you've got some basis for the 1.6GHz claim, and it's weird to pick a number like that by the way (why not 2GHz, or 1.5?), then you're going WinTel. I haven't seen anyone claim a G4 or G5PB at 1.6GHz. G4s are rumored around 1.4 max, and people keep talking 1.2 and below to keep a G5 from melting the frame...

If you can wait 'til '05, then you might get a G5 in that range.

From experience, I can say that the G4PB might take a little longer to complete a long operation (in my case simulations), but you can actually do other things with it during that time-- the tasking is really smooth. Most Wintel users are afraid to touch a box that's busy...

If you buy a Dell, long operations are a good time to check the carpet for screws that fell out of the case...

Gaming is a usually a flag that you want an Intel box-- not that I want to discourage anyone from developing games for the Mac!
 
Originally posted by beloit08
Maybe, back in January when Steve said this would be the "year of the laptop," what he really meant was that we'd be stuck with the same laptop all year.

LMFAO!! 😀
 
Re: Re: lol

Originally posted by Analog Kid
From experience, I can say that the G4PB might take a little longer to complete a long operation (in my case simulations), but you can actually do other things with it during that time-- the tasking is really smooth. Most Wintel users are afraid to touch a box that's busy...

If you buy a Dell, long operations are a good time to check the carpet for screws that fell out of the case...

ROFL 😀
 
Re: Re: Re: lol

Originally posted by AidenShaw
Funny, but actually Dell uses Loctite on its case screws....

Well then remind me not to use Loctite! I thought the comment was funny b/c all the Dell laptops in our office have lost screws.
 
become one with Apple's delays

ok, so I did not read the hundreds of messages regarding the PowerBooks and their delay, so sorry if something like this has been posted before.

Here is a little 'philosophical crutch': remember how long we waited for OSX ? Remember how we were all disappointed when it wasn't ready, and then still wasn't ready, and then... and now we are all happy campers. It is all good at the end, we just need to be more patient. Good things take time to mature.

I don't know, I feel really positive today. I am sure this is going to be a good day, even without new PB 😉
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: lol

Originally posted by Lord Bodak
Well then remind me not to use Loctite! I thought the comment was funny b/c all the Dell laptops in our office have lost screws.

At least, Dell is using Loctite *now* 😉

Don't know about older laptops, but I've swapped hard drives in a couple of brand new Latitude systems - and the screws are very hard to turn until you break the Loctite bond.
 
Re: Re: GOOD NEWS!

Originally posted by cb911
YES!! i've been waiting for someone to post a good omen from the magic 8 ball!!.

now i can stop worrying and just chill out for a couple of weeks. 😎

What is magic 8 ball?
 
Re: Re: Re: GOOD NEWS!

Originally posted by Finch
What is magic 8 ball?

Aww, you deprived child. Did you not have one as a kid?

Have you seen Toy Story? Woody consults a magic 8 ball with the question 'will Andy pick me?'
 
Re: Re: Alienware IS a toy

Originally posted by lord_flash
So what you're saying is that two elegantly designed laptops side by side and people are more curious about the Mac? I'm not surprised - after all, who is the odd one out? It's the glimpse of the unfamiliar OS that makes the difference (Oooh... no Start button... how does it work... I'm scared...)

That or the fact that - judging by what you say above - you also carry a large sign with the words 'Look at me - the quality of my work matters not, but I want to be seen with something expensive' written on it.

Damn - now I'm getting drawn into the classing Mac/PC childish debate. No better than Sega/Nintendo...

(Sega were best, by the way 😀 )

That's what I was exactly thinking when i was reading the post.

(Nintendo is the best, by the way 🙂 )
 
Originally posted by Analog Kid
Funny, but I think I could not ship 7457s out of my basement as well as Mot isn't...

Mot's a disaster in general and a disaster for Apple-- Apple has been shipping overclocked laptop processors in desktops for well into a year now because Mot can't get their process together or put their heads around a roadmap. Apple takes some blame for believing that they'd actually complete their own G5 (which they did for embedded customers, btw), or for not just abandoning them earlier, but that doesn't eliminate the fact that Mot is horribly mismanaged in all of their market segments.

I've worked with them-- this isn't just a problem for Apple, it's across the board.

Cell phones and network routers went to their heads and they lost all perspective. They tried to do everything at once, forgot where their core competences were, and wound up doing nothing instead.

And it's a shame because Mot used to be a premier company... Watching the dot-coms collapse because they were trying to catch a wave in a new market and didn't have the experience to build a real buisness plan doesn't bother me, but to see a venerable company like Mot go through this is just hard to watch...

They could have easily come out of this as well as TI if they'd stopped to think for a little while.

Sorry for the rant... It just depresses me to see a good technology company fall apart.

I'm with you, I heard somewhere that Motorola was getting out of the semiconductor business all together. Maybe they'll focus on building better cell phones or something.
 
Re: Re: Re: Alienware IS a toy

Originally posted by yujini
That's what I was exactly thinking when i was reading the post.

(Nintendo is the best, by the way 🙂 )
Nah, Xbox has the best graphics
 
Any Thoughts??

Folks, just some interesting tidbits to pass along. I am trying to get out of the PC world and step into the Matrix that is the Mac World. I've been mulling the decision to get a 15" TiBook or wait until the updates. Well, this started back in July. It's now September with no new PB's. I decided to cave in and I contacted my local Mac shop and told them that I wanted a TiBook. They didn't have any in stock and made several calls but couldn't locate any. The guy at the store said that he has at least 1 person a day that wants a TiBook now but they can't supply them. So, my question is...would Apple really shoot themselves in the foot this way? The PB's are in demand and I'm afraid many people are just going straight to Dell...because of a lack of stock. If the updates aren't going to be available immediately then why wouldn't Apple send out more of the TiBooks??
 
Folks, just some interesting tidbits to pass along. I am trying to get out of the PC world and step into the Matrix that is the Mac World. I've been mulling the decision to get a 15" TiBook or wait until the updates. Well, this started back in July. It's now September with no new PB's. I decided to cave in and I contacted my local Mac shop and told them that I wanted a TiBook. They didn't have any in stock and made several calls but couldn't locate any. The guy at the store said that he has at least 1 person a day that wants a TiBook now but they can't supply them. So, my question is...would Apple really shoot themselves in the foot this way? The PB's are in demand and I'm afraid many people are just going straight to Dell...because of a lack of stock. If the updates aren't going to be available immediately then why wouldn't Apple send out more of the TiBooks??
This could be a good news. Stores running low on stock usually means Apple is preparing a new product introduction and trying to clear out its old stock.

But in this case, it could be that Apple is preparing a new product introduction and trying to clear out its old stock AND their product is DELAYED. They could have planned to introduce new 15" PowerBook and simply unable to do so because lack of processor supplies.

In a way, Apple is shooting itself in the foot but they have little choice. They can't introduce new Aluminium 15" PowerBook with same old processor because once the new processor comes out, it will probably have to be redesigned. And if G5 PowerBook is around the corner, there is no point playing around with G4 processor. If faster G4 Aluminium 15" PowerBook came out couple of months ago, it would have given them enough time to prepare G5 PowerBook. Now with this G4 15" PowerBook delay, I'm worried that G5 PowerBook might get pushed back just so that G4 PowerBook can have enough time on the market.
 
Originally posted by macphoria
In a way, Apple is shooting itself in the foot but they have little choice. They can't introduce new Aluminium 15" PowerBook with same old processor because once the new processor comes out, it will probably have to be redesigned. And if G5 PowerBook is around the corner, there is no point playing around with G4 processor. If faster G4 Aluminium 15" PowerBook came out couple of months ago, it would have given them enough time to prepare G5 PowerBook. Now with this G4 15" PowerBook delay, I'm worried that G5 PowerBook might get pushed back just so that G4 PowerBook can have enough time on the market.

And that is a very bad thing.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Alienware IS a toy

Originally posted by Bruja
Nah, Xbox has the best graphics

I'm sorry but the XBox is total crap. If you like it, you might as well just buy a computer and play on that. Second, the controller was surely designed for an irate gorilla. That is all.
 
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