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PowerFox Web Browser - A brand new browser for PowerPC (Beta)
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Appleuser201
macrumors 6502
Im pretty sure there are easier ways to play YouTube on a G3 and bypassing the website, although I am far from an expert on that. Also, a very fitting video to play on it is Steve Jobs introducing that very same iMac in 1998!
On my G3 devices (I tried on a 500 MHz iBook Dual USB from 2001), PowerFox crashes a lot while it doesn't on my G4. Both have the same amount of RAM (640 MB vs. 768 MB), so this should not be the issue. Still I am impressed that you got PowerFox running on the G3. Btw, I did not try yet on my iMac G3 Lime (400 MHz), nor the iBook G3 Clamshell SE (466 MHz) ... (just checked the correct MHz number).
My personal webpages are truly made for old computers, they might be slow to render, but I always make sure that at least TFF/InterWebPPC/Aquafox can display them in a way you can read all information nicely (not all effects applied, and may be some glitches here and there). No unnecessary scripts, no Google analytics, no search enginge optimization, and still find my own stuff can be found when needed.
May be we should abandon the modern web and create our own - well as we did in the beginning - with the same spirit of frogfind dot com.
To replace sites like Meta's "The Social Network", most forums offer additionally Social Network capabilities, e.g. macrumors has space for images, profiles, PNs, it's truly a social media platform, just with a focus to news, and public conversations (forum).
My personal webpages are truly made for old computers, they might be slow to render, but I always make sure that at least TFF/InterWebPPC/Aquafox can display them in a way you can read all information nicely (not all effects applied, and may be some glitches here and there). No unnecessary scripts, no Google analytics, no search enginge optimization, and still find my own stuff can be found when needed.
May be we should abandon the modern web and create our own - well as we did in the beginning - with the same spirit of frogfind dot com.
To replace sites like Meta's "The Social Network", most forums offer additionally Social Network capabilities, e.g. macrumors has space for images, profiles, PNs, it's truly a social media platform, just with a focus to news, and public conversations (forum).
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Silly me, for two months now I was using 26.2.1 all the times which I downloaded literarely Minutes before 26.2.2 came out, and I just noticed that this targets the issue I mentionen: crashes on G3.
Now I installed 26.2.2 on two of my three G3 computers and it works fine so far!
EDIT: it runs quite stable on my 466 MHz Clamshell, while it still crached a few times on the 500 MHz Dual-USB.
Now I installed 26.2.2 on two of my three G3 computers and it works fine so far!
EDIT: it runs quite stable on my 466 MHz Clamshell, while it still crached a few times on the 500 MHz Dual-USB.
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wow that's a lot of threads. I wonder how many tabs are opened ... but yeah, web browsing isn't a basic task anymore.
srp
macrumors regular
Giving us some more context like your hardware configuration and OS + what page you're trying to load would help a lot since there's a pretty big difference between the G3, G4 and G5 PowerFox builds and what kinds of tasks you're actually trying to put them through. Does this only happen with some web pages, sometimes? Or does it happen with one specific web page every time? Can you upload any crash logs, if it eventually runs out of memory and crashes? The more info, the better.
Smithwick’s
macrumors regular
It seems you've got yourself a rare beast, the Power Mac G5 "Biquingentuple Core". I hear it can even heat the whole neighborhood in winter.
Andrew-R
macrumors regular
Got few of those in system log trying to play Youtube video (Powerfox crashed, both on youtube and on Youtube video embedded here)
Code:
01.06.26 22:10:54 [0x0-0x219219].org.mozilla.powerfox[10413] powerfox(10413,0xf09c7000) malloc: *** error for object 0x1f5668: Non-aligned pointer being freed
I'm proud to announce that I have completed preliminary work to port Dr. Kaiser's IonPower JavaScript JIT Compiler to PowerFox!
This provides a massive speedup across the entire browser and for every browsing task.
I cannot provide a release date yet as I still need to make the fully engine pass JavaScript compliance tests without crashing, but I can guarantee at this point that PowerFox for PPC will receive a JIT.
I'm currently not really able to provide benchmarks because the engine still falls over quite a bit, but something that I did get running was BMark, which isn't really even a JavaScript benchmark, yet it runs over 3 times as fast.
This provides a massive speedup across the entire browser and for every browsing task.
I cannot provide a release date yet as I still need to make the fully engine pass JavaScript compliance tests without crashing, but I can guarantee at this point that PowerFox for PPC will receive a JIT.
I'm currently not really able to provide benchmarks because the engine still falls over quite a bit, but something that I did get running was BMark, which isn't really even a JavaScript benchmark, yet it runs over 3 times as fast.
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Wow! So glad to hear a JIT Compiler for powerfox was ported! Aquafox is the only browser that works quickly on my 233 mhz g3, even though less sites work correctly. Will this only work on leopard or both tiger and leopard? Thank you for all your contributions to the PPC community!
It will be available for 10.4 and 10.5.
DurltazorOSXPower
macrumors member
hello @Jazzzny good afternoon,
man i have problem on powerfox 26.1 on my system 32bits snow leopard. I can't login in reddit. i could do it before
Appleuser201
macrumors 6502
Nope you can't login with old reddit. I'd suggest they delete and reinstall Powerfox.
DurltazorOSXPower
macrumors member
I believe this won't solve it, I think reddit changed something that the browser can't understand, strangely everything loads fine and I use old.reddit. for being better on my machines.
DurltazorOSXPower
macrumors member
My friends, I was able to log in but not in the way I'm used to, I had to link to my Apple and log in with Apple Mail and then I was able to log in to reddit.com and then log in to old.reddit.com because it identified that I had already logged in.
Appleuser201
macrumors 6502
Reddit is horrible and buggy, I honestly doubt its completely a PowerFox issue. New Reddit is just bad overall. Old Reddit is where it's at and I'm really glad they've kept it all these years later.
DurltazorOSXPower
macrumors member
In particular, I have only been using old.reddit.com but since the API changed there, both the login to Alien Blue on iOS 6 and the old site have become impossible to use properly. On the PC, direct login sometimes worked and now to log in you need to do this trick with the new reddit, on iOS 6 on my iPad 2 and iPhone 5, no chance of using it, unfortunately...
I'm very proud to provide preliminary benchmarks:
Without JIT:
With:
Without JIT:
With:
Andrew-R
macrumors regular
Doq
macrumors 6502a
Dang, PowerPC browsing might actually be viable again.