MrSugar said:
Dude.. I serously love posts like this. Nice job. I totally agree, and you put it perfectally.
Gracias, me compadre.
~Shard~ said:
Yep, you hit the nail on the head with that one - I am in the same boat as you, as I have to constantly repair problems on friends' and coworkers' Windows boxes, often problems that I shake my head at because they are so stupid and unecessary - you would never see such problems on a Mac, but thanks to the guys who wrote Windows... And I'm sorry if the above sounds cliche, but from my experiences, this is simply the truth!
The worst part of it all, though, is that I have to keep touching Windows. Ewwwww!
No, actually, the worst aspect of it is that I have to provide support for an OS that, were these people to spend what they'd pay a professional to fix these things, they'd be able to buy a mac and not have the problem.
I can't say I've used a Mac (or computers in general, for that matter!) as long as you have, but this has been my experience as well - PCs have always caused me more trouble, and for me, that's simply the way it is - perhaps for other people, their experiences are different, which is fair enough. I'm not trying to over-generalize by any means.
What can I say? I was programming in BASIC when I was five.
Oh, and as for calling thatwendigo a liar, he can easily stand up for himself, but may I just add that those types of immature, irrational comments are not required in these forums, okay? We don't need to insult people, and in this case, make claims that obviously are unwarranted - thatwendigo's comments are not lies, simply because he was speaking from personal experience. Please post more intelligently in the future.
Thanks for the backup, in any case. As always, Shard, it's been a pleasure.
numediaman said:
I'm beginning to sympathize with those who say they wish Apple would design all its software for the PC market, and have Apple get completely out of the hardware business -- other than iPods and the like.
Ah, so you're another one of the people who want Apple dead, as opposed to alive, debt-free, and still ramping up into the new archtecture and constantly improving the OS? See, OS X would be cracked, pirated, and otherwise screwed over instantly by the vast majority of people who wanted to give it a try, and the ones who might pay for it (consumers) would still not have the Windows compatibility that's its biggest problem in the current market.
Repeat after me:
Rumors and dreams of Apple on x86 are the mind kille. Rumors and dreams of Apple on x86 are the little death. I will let them move over and through me, and when they are gone, only I will remain.
jade said:
Sorry I didn't mean lying literally....the word I probably should have used is exaggerated claims of crashing.
I do no think that your experiences solving windows probs are any less valid than my overall pleasant experiences....sometimes it seems as if people come down a little hard on windows failure rate.
Apology accepted.
Also, just to be fair, I'm willing to accept that people have perfectly aceptable, and even pleasant, experiences with Windows, just as I'm willing to grant that you could be having as many issues with macs as you say you are. I know that they happen, but they just don't seem to happen to me, or to anyone I know.
numediaman said:
But I think the real point here is that Apple is introducing some pretty good software -- but where is the hardware to match? I'm very happy with Panther, Final Cut, iLife, etc. but why am I left wishing I could run this stuff on a PC? I'd rather run it on a Mac, but Apple seems completely disinterested in their computer division (or their engineering or manufacturing management are out to lunch). Its 24 hours of iPod at Apple now-a-days.
*hand-talk motions*
Okay, let's try this again, for the DHMs and others in the audience... The fact that Apple hasn't updated the G5 yet, hasn't released a whole new PowerBook, or done any of these other things that people want doesn't mean anything about their engineering or manufacturing arms. There are half a million things (conservatively) that can go wrong in a big business, and Apple's in the unique position of having even more than their competitors, considering how much proprietary, in-house work goes into their machines. That says nothing of their specific manufacturing needs (G5 ASIC, anyone?), or the supply line that feeds them their modified or exclusive components (graphics cards, controllers, motherboards, and so on), or the issues that might come from trying to integrate the new chips. Circuit design isn't simple. That's why you typically have to have a degree for it, especially in something like computing.
Dont Hurt Me said:
Im sorry Apple but you can only screw me so long on hardware until enough is enough. you farted around a year when you should have intoduced a G5imac to make up up for years of dicking around with G4 & G3s. No excuse to be extorting Mac user's all these years. Sick of the Crap. Release OSX for Windows if your going to keep pushing Hardware Crap. Im about to order ALIENWARE and then can walk into my neighborhood Wal-Mart for everything i need for it.
Go! Jesus Christ, go and quit spouting this ridiculous rhetoric that Apple will never see, read, or alter their policies over. If you're naive enough to think that a company will change for one person, or alter a successful strategy just because people are whining on boards they don't even own, then we're better off without you. The mac is a premium computer that isn't traded only on speed, even though it is more than swift enough as it stands, for the price points its positioned at. You pay for the design, the experience, the integration, and the ability to use OS X. If you're not willing to pay for that, then stop your crying about it and go
vote with your dollars.
You want Apple to hear you? Buy something else.
