PowerMac G5 questions

[Intell]

That machine is a strange combination of the June 2004 and the late 2004 PowerMac G5 that doesn't exist.

This makes it a June one:
PCI-X slots
2.5Ghz clock speed
8GB of ram

This makes it a late 2004 one:
ModelID of PowerMac9,1
Model number: A1093
Bus speed of 600Mhz

No PowerMac G5 has USB 1.1 ports. Unless that is referencing the ones built into the included keyboard.

The best way to find out exactly which model it is, is to get the serial number.

 

[Davy.Shalom]

Depending what you want to do the G4 might be too slow, the G5 is still a usable computer but just remember it's not Intel so getting newer software is becoming harder.

Don't get me wrong I've owned a G4 and still use a G5 and love them but time is marching on, if you can afford to go for an Mac Pro, but even the early models of these can't run the latest Mac OS X. But don't blame Apple, ever tried getting Win7 to work on a 7 year old PC?

I'm not saying don't buy, just be aware of the limitations of the G5 and more so the G4.

Haha I actually have Win 7 Ultimate 32 on a P4 2 GHz from 2002...

 

[wobegong]

But don't blame Apple, ever tried getting Win7 to work on a 7 year old PC?

Don't go there, I have Windows 7 running fine on a Pentium Mobile 2Ghz ancient PC.
You could argue that back in the PPC days but not any more, even Intel machines are getting chopped off with new Lion/ML releases.

 

[Lancer]

Don't go there, I have Windows 7 running fine on a Pentium Mobile 2Ghz ancient PC.
You could argue that back in the PPC days but not any more, even Intel machines are getting chopped off with new Lion/ML releases.

:lol: I asked for that...

I was checking the specs on my AMD 64 with 2Gb or RAM and was told it wasn't supported, might need to check into that.

What does annoy me is the PC I have with XP Pro gets to run the latest FireFox but my newer Leopard PPC can't.

 

[wobegong]

What does annoy me is the PC I have with XP Pro gets to run the latest FireFox but my newer Leopard PPC can't.

Exactly - Apple fanboys (I'm a fan but not a "fanboy" ) will always defend Apples quick dropping of support for "old" hardware but fail to see that Microsoft continues to support MUCH older hardware with their software, granted they don't have a CPU architecture change to deal with but thats Apple's decision and one of the factors they should have considered was the cost of continuing support for two architectures for longer than they have, instead they shafted the PPC users far too early, they are if nothing else total control freaks.
I love Apple machines and I love the O/S, that doesn't mean I think Apple is saint like in all areas

 

[Lancer]

I'm not a fanboy either but I love my Mac and willing to drop serious money (for me) on a top 27" iMac when the 2012 update is release.

I will say before my current PC I had another, one day the USB ports died, I think it was less than 5 years old. Anyone I couldn't get a new replacement mainboard and by the time I added a new CPU, RAM and other parts it was cheaper to get a new base PC and sell the old one for parts on eBay.

 

[Liquinn]

Exactly - Apple fanboys (I'm a fan but not a "fanboy" ) will always defend Apples quick dropping of support for "old" hardware but fail to see that Microsoft continues to support MUCH older hardware with their software, granted they don't have a CPU architecture change to deal with but thats Apple's decision and one of the factors they should have considered was the cost of continuing support for two architectures for longer than they have, instead they shafted the PPC users far too early, they are if nothing else total control freaks.
I love Apple machines and I love the O/S, that doesn't mean I think Apple is saint like in all areas

Technology moves on I guess. 

My Powermac G5 feels like a real Mac, as opposed to PC hardware in an aluminum case with an Apple logo on.

 

[LeoTheLion89]

That machine is a strange combination of the June 2004 and the late 2004 PowerMac G5 that doesn't exist.

This makes it a June one:
PCI-X slots
2.5Ghz clock speed
8GB of ram

This makes it a late 2004 one:
ModelID of PowerMac9,1
Model number: A1093
Bus speed of 600Mhz

No PowerMac G5 has USB 1.1 ports. Unless that is referencing the ones built into the included keyboard.

The best way to find out exactly which model it is, is to get the serial number.

heres the info :

The Apple Power Mac G5 Desktop 2004 has been customized by the seller, so read the detailed listing and feel free to reach out to the seller to ask questions about specific adjustments. Without any modifications, the Apple Power Mac G5 Desktop 2004 is a 1.8 GHz PowerPC G5-powered desktop that helps you to multitask with ease. It comes with a standard capacity of 256 MB, a maximum capacity of 4 GB and 80 GB (7200 RPM) standard hard drive. Moreover, with a resolution of 1920x1200 pixels, this Mac G5 customized desktop delivers clear and crisp visual output. Thanks to its Ethernet connectivity, this Mac G5 customized desktop lets you surf the web, download games, and stream videos from the Internet. What’s more, you can simply connect flash drive and digital camera with the Apple Power Mac G5 Desktop 2004 via its three USB ports for fast data transmission.

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That machine is a strange combination of the June 2004 and the late 2004 PowerMac G5 that doesn't exist.

This makes it a June one:
PCI-X slots
2.5Ghz clock speed
8GB of ram

This makes it a late 2004 one:
ModelID of PowerMac9,1
Model number: A1093
Bus speed of 600Mhz

No PowerMac G5 has USB 1.1 ports. Unless that is referencing the ones built into the included keyboard.

The best way to find out exactly which model it is, is to get the serial number.

the specs say Model Number is A1093 the G5 case itself says A2528

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:lol: I asked for that...

I was checking the specs on my AMD 64 with 2Gb or RAM and was told it wasn't supported, might need to check into that.

What does annoy me is the PC I have with XP Pro gets to run the latest FireFox but my newer Leopard PPC can't.

exactly i love Linux but even Linux on a PPC mac is so limited i cant do much more with Linux thean Mac OS X i just use Camino​

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Exactly - Apple fanboys (I'm a fan but not a "fanboy" ) will always defend Apples quick dropping of support for "old" hardware but fail to see that Microsoft continues to support MUCH older hardware with their software, granted they don't have a CPU architecture change to deal with but thats Apple's decision and one of the factors they should have considered was the cost of continuing support for two architectures for longer than they have, instead they shafted the PPC users far too early, they are if nothing else total control freaks.
I love Apple machines and I love the O/S, that doesn't mean I think Apple is saint like in all areas

im not a fanboy either infact i dont even like macs that well for the fact that apple dont back PPCs anymore just because apple dont support em anymore dont mean that Mozilla and other companies has do abandon the PPC platform automatically assuming everyone has a intel mac Intel Macs cost too much even on eBay and i learned everything about Mac OS X on a 1GHz eMac with 256MB RAM running Panther all throughout high school this includes the iBook G4 as well also including 256MB RAM but did have a slightly faster CPU at 1.25GHz if Adobe still cared about Mac then watching YouTube on my eMac would still be possible to do like it was in high school.​

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I'm not a fanboy either but I love my Mac and willing to drop serious money (for me) on a top 27" iMac when the 2012 update is release.

I will say before my current PC I had another, one day the USB ports died, I think it was less than 5 years old. Anyone I couldn't get a new replacement mainboard and by the time I added a new CPU, RAM and other parts it was cheaper to get a new base PC and sell the old one for parts on eBay.

i have never experienced USB ports on a motherboard going bad and i dont have any computer newer that a 2006 (motherboard date code) thats not including a Acer laptop i got for on the go gaming.

I have never owed a computer that came with Vista installed all XP and with how bad XP was for speed and preformance Windows 7 shockingly makes a 8yo computer much more stable than XP.​

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Technology moves on I guess. 

My Powermac G5 feels like a real Mac, as opposed to PC hardware in an aluminum case with an Apple logo on.

agreed i feel the same way PPC is the REAL Macs

 

[Zeke D]

Don't go there, I have Windows 7 running fine on a Pentium Mobile 2Ghz ancient PC.
You could argue that back in the PPC days but not any more, even Intel machines are getting chopped off with new Lion/ML releases.

Lol I have winows7 running on a dual P/// 1ghz with 1ghz ram.

 

[LeoTheLion89]

Lol I have winows7 running on a dual P/// 1ghz with 1ghz ram.

it would be 1GB (Gigabyte) of RAM just so u know and windows 7 does require 1GHz processor and atleast 1GB RAM to run so u are running in borderline compatibility

 

[Zeke D]

it would be 1GB (Gigabyte) of RAM just so u know and windows 7 does require 1GHz processor and atleast 1GB RAM to run so u are running in borderline compatibility

Thanks for pointing out my mistype.

 

[Intell]

the specs say Model Number is A1093 the G5 case itself says A2528

Unless he put a June-2004 logicboard in there. There is no way to get 2.5Ghz CPU's running well on a 1.8Ghz board. The model number A2528 also doesn't exist for any Apple made product. I advise not getting that one due to it's unclear origins and specifications.

 

[LeoTheLion89]

Unless he put a June-2004 logicboard in there. There is no way to get 2.5Ghz CPU's running well on a 1.8Ghz board. The model number A2528 also doesn't exist for any Apple made product. I advise not getting that one due to it's unclear origins and specifications.

here is a picture of the case http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Apple-Power-Mac-G5-Desktop-Customized-2-5GHz-8GB-500GB-HDD-A2528-/00/s/NjQwWDQ4MA==/$T2eC16VHJIkE9qU3kI0hBQI95et1wQ~~60_12.JPG

this computer does have a LAN Expansion card (no idea y since LAN is intergrated) and what appears to be a FW800 card

 

[Intell]

Still not helping. All PowerMac G5's looked the same from the front.

 

[LeoTheLion89]

Still not helping. All PowerMac G5's looked the same from the front.

the model number is on the front

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can i get expert opnions on a Mac Mini g4? the PM G5s are too much in shipping (40 bucks) and the g4 MDD i was gonna get has sold i have found this mac mini

M9686LL/B its got leopard and 1GB RAM

it says graphics issues: "a used Mac Mini with a display issue. The computer fuctions perfectly fine other then the video card will randomly scramble the video output. I have tried different displays, cables, and settings with no change." is it fixable? here is a picture of the screen issue http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzQ3WDEwMDE=/$(KGrHqV,!jcE+t!ZgOpmBQHzBloYlg~~60_1.JPG?set_id=8800005007

 

[Intell]

No Apple product had that model number.

PPC Mac Mini G4's are like eMac's without screens, yet slightly less powerful due to a lesser GPU, less maximum ram, and slow hard drive.

 

[LeoTheLion89]

No Apple product had that model number.

PPC Mac Mini G4's are like eMac's without screens, yet slightly less powerful due to a lesser GPU, less maximum ram, and slow hard drive.

how well is a 1.8Ghz iMac G5?

 

[Intell]

You should only buy a G5 iMac to have one to complete your collection of Apple products. They do not make good every day use machines. Most will develop video, power supply, or overheating problems if they don't already have them.

 

[Lancer]

You should only buy a G5 iMac to have one to complete your collection of Apple products. They do not make good every day use machines. Most will develop video, power supply, or overheating problems if they don't already have them.

ITA - I love the G5 in my tower but the G5 iMac is not meant for the same tasks, the newer iMacs have come a long way to make the current Intel iMac more a production machine that can be left on all day. Besides you'll be stuck with a small LCD unless you can attach an external one, then you'd just be better with a tower.

If you budget is limited then go for the best G5 Tower you can find, the Mac Pro towers are probably still too much even the early models. Or look at the Intel Mini's?

On eBay (Here in AU) I saw some early model Mac Pros going for about $600, which is cheap considering most are around twice that. But I think these might have been very early base models and of course without LCDs. In most cases they are ex lease and don't even come with the original DVDs or KB/Mouse. Still very tempting until you look at the spec and see the current iMac is much better and probably faster in most day-to-day tasks.

 

[LeoTheLion89]

ITA - I love the G5 in my tower but the G5 iMac is not meant for the same tasks, the newer iMacs have come a long way to make the current Intel iMac more a production machine that can be left on all day. Besides you'll be stuck with a small LCD unless you can attach an external one, then you'd just be better with a tower.

If you budget is limited then go for the best G5 Tower you can find, the Mac Pro towers are probably still too much even the early models. Or look at the Intel Mini's?

On eBay (Here in AU) I saw some early model Mac Pros going for about $600, which is cheap considering most are around twice that. But I think these might have been very early base models and of course without LCDs. In most cases they are ex lease and don't even come with the original DVDs or KB/Mouse. Still very tempting until you look at the spec and see the current iMac is much better and probably faster in most day-to-day tasks.

Mac Minis are cheap and i wouldnt mind a G4 Mini as long as its up to par with my 1GHz eMac however id prefer a g4 or g5 tower was it can expand it with USB card and such

anything anyone can tell me bout the iMac g4s compared eMac besides the obvious reasons of course

 

[Intell]

The later iMac G4's are the same speed and power when it comes to a similarly clocked eMac. But eMac's win out because they are easily overclockable and they came in a 1.42Ghz version. I also think the ATI GPU in the eMac was slightly better than the iMac's NVIDIA GPU. Not sure about the GPU differences though. Could have that backwards.

 

[LeoTheLion89]

The later iMac G4's are the same speed and power when it comes to a similarly clocked eMac. But eMac's win out because they are easily overclockable and they came in a 1.42Ghz version. I also think the ATI GPU in the eMac was slightly better than the iMac's NVIDIA GPU. Not sure about the GPU differences though. Could have that backwards.

i found a iMac g4 i simply cannot pass up has wifi 80GB HDD everything id need even has keyboard mouse remote and other things what is the type of RAM the USB 1.1 17in has? MacTracker does not specify

 

[Intell]

Those take PC133 or PC-2100 depending on the CPU speed. The 800Mhz takes PC133, while the 1Ghz takes PC-2100.

 

[LeoTheLion89]

Those take PC133 or PC-2100 depending on the CPU speed. The 800Mhz takes PC133, while the 1Ghz takes PC-2100.

is PC2100 DDR RAM? MacTracker says PC2100 200 pin SO-DIMM meantions only one of the 2 ram slots are user accessable what exactly does that mean?

 

[92WardSenatorFE]

is PC2100 DDR RAM? MacTracker says PC2100 200 pin SO-DIMM meantions only one of the 2 ram slots are user accessable what exactly does that mean?

On the iMac G4, there are two RAM slots. One is user accessible, located by removing the bottom plate off the machine. The second one is internal, and requires opening up the machine to replace. I would not recommend opening one up unless you are very familiar with working on them.