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PowerMac G5 Reports and Benchmarks

in all fairness...

I hope those scores are only because of non-optimised Cinebench and OS...CINEBENCH 2003 v1

this is the Dual 1.8 G5...
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Tester :

Processor :
MHz :
Number of CPUs : 1
Operating System :

Graphics Card :
Resolution : <fill this out>
Color Depth : <fill this out>

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Rendering (Single CPU): 188 CB-CPU
Rendering (Multiple CPU): --- CB-CPU


Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 227 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 605 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 936 CB-GFX

OpenGL Speedup: 4.12

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this is mine...

CINEBENCH 2003 v1
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Tester :

Processor : RSFastMac
MHz : 1250 (PowerMac G4 v3.3)
Number of CPUs : 2
Operating System : 10.2.6

Graphics Card : GeForce4 Ti
Resolution : 1920x1200
Color Depth : Millions

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Rendering (Single CPU): 120 CB-CPU
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 218 CB-CPU

Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.82

Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 147 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 406 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 800 CB-GFX

OpenGL Speedup: 5.45

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and this is my laptop (Compaq 2145)

CINEBENCH 2003 v1
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Tester :

Processor : Compaq 2145US
MHz : 1729 (Athlon-M 2400+ Barton Core)
Number of CPUs : 1
Operating System : WindowsXP Professional

Graphics Card : ATi Mobility U1 AGP
Resolution : 1440x1050
Color Depth : 32bpp

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Rendering (Single CPU): 218 CB-CPU
Rendering (Multiple CPU): --- CB-CPU

Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 219 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 584 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 329 CB-GFX

OpenGL Speedup: 2.67

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like I said...I HOPE those numbers are only because of non-optimised OS and App...because I expected it to spank my G4 (by more than it did)...but to have a CPU score less than my laptop running at a slightly lower speed???...and considering laptops run slow in comparison to a desktop machine (I haven't run CineBench on any of the desktops here yet)
 
Probably we need to wait for optimized tester.

I advise you all that xbanch v1.1 is not so good for testing OpenGl and Grphic performance.

I have a G4800DP with GeForce ti 4600 and I get same performance as G4800DP GeForce2Mx.

CINEBENCH 2003 v1 as the author said is not optimized for G5 at all.

The problem I see as a mac user is another... out there there are about 50% of the software that are just not optimized or bad optimized for G4. Don't expect G5 optimization so quickly in the future.

Just my opinion.
 
then again...there is the issue of a non-optimised OS also...yes it has some 64bit libraries...but I'd heard 10.4 SHOULD be optimised for the G5 (hopefully they do what Micro$haft did with NT4...multiple platforms on the same CD (or in this case...DVD)

...seeing that "Panther" will be dropping support for Beige G3's (Gossamer and Artemis)...it's likely "Lynx" will drop everything below "Sawtooth" (or even Digital Audio)...dunno 'til it happens I guess...
 
You will kill me but...

About 2 years ago I have bought the fastest machine of the world, a PPC G4 800 DP with 1,25MB ram, Delta Audiophile 24/96 sound card, GeForce 4Ti 4600, 2 HD 120GB two monitors and some other nice things. I have spend about 6000$ for it.

It was a G4 with an altivec and a new system on it called OSX (I fantastic one after 10.2 I have to admit). I remember the first year was a frustration because
not all the software was ported to OSX, most of them are ported but not optimized. I remember PC people talk about 160 fps in the Game, I remember PC people using Cubase SX and 10 VST plug-in without any problems, people using 3D and 2d Graphic software that run as a hell, I saw PC people with flash plug-in that support their browser, I saw PC people using game coded in Shockwave and using it fast.

But I have the fastest machine of the world!... I need just to wait... they will optimize for it, we need to wait for altivec support, they will do it, I'm shure.

I'm still waiting...

But one day, my G4 is became slow and slow... most software was not optimized for it yet and the one that was, Game, Pro Audio, Graphics, are phased on the medium, I repeat "MEDIUM" PC counterpart. My G4 is not enough for it, it is too slow. Game like Medal of Honor, WWII Online get about 10-12 fps. PC user get 60-80-120, audio software drain my CPU down and I can use 1-2 VST plug-in and most of them like Moog, Live, Cubase sometimes are too slow also if I use it lonely. For most graphics software the story is the same.

I'm still waiting...

But one day, things became true!!!!!

Apple have just released a new machine. It's name is G5. It's the fastest computer of the world!!!. It will cost me about 6000$ (I talk about a complete configuration, with RAM, 2 drive, The best videocard, A sound card and some other nice things).

I will buy it... and I have just to wait... they have to port the software for It. They have to upgrade the system. They have to optimized it and recompile for 64bit architecture.

I'm still waiting... I'm still waiting... I'm still waiting...

or...

I can buy a PC. Have a stupid system (not so stupid as the old one but not nice as OSX)... With 6000$ I can buy a so fast stupid PC machine that I will play Game at 300 fps, play Ableton Live and Reason together as rewire slave in Cubase and put on it 10 VST plug-in and have my cpu used at 50% (I saw it), use 3D software, Flash, Adobe without any problems. I can buy a Matrox DV editing accelerator card for 500$ and have the driver for my system that support it, I can do all this. I was sure that software house and hardware house will support me, they reply to my mail, I will have the latest driver, the latest software all optimized for my machine. I can have support forums with developers that reply me and not just ignore me because I'm one of the xxx stupid damn Mac users that pretend Altivec optimization for software that they have paid exactly as the PC user have. I can have all this. I can have all this Now!

I will don't have the fastest machine of the world, but men... I don't know why but I have stop to waiting.

So now kill me, open a flame and burn my house... offend me and tell what you want. But I know this is exactly my story, my money, my experience. I have supported Apple for about 15 years, from the old Mac Plus... I want to believe that G5 is the solution to all that, but I can't convince myself of it, no more. My next machine will be a Stupid, unusable, handmade, IRQ setuppuble kazaa style like PC. With a stupid, carboncopymac windows XP system. But I'm stop waiting... now.

Please, convince me I'm wrong... let me spend this next 6000$ right, on Apple. Please... convince me I'm wrong.

Sorry for my bad English.
 
rather then spend 6 grand why dont you upgrade the cpu, your geforce 4 blows away the fx 5200 & 9600 pro, you got the memory why start over? you just need a cpu boost.
 
In the reviews I've seen, the 9600 128MB on a PC beats a GF4 Ti on many tests. OK, so the Mac version is 64MB, but I wouldn't say the Ti blows away the 9600.

...but I don't think stid's post meant he was about to spend another six grand on a mac.

stid: you make very valid points. All I can say is that I am willing to pay double the price of a PC for a Mac (I just have, on my G5 1.6), just because of the OS.
 
im not sure how or when it came in, but id just like to declare that University-Wisconsin, Madison had a 1.6 g5 in their tech store when i went to buy my tablet today, hooked up to a 23" cinema display nonetheless, and i was pretty impressed to say the least. man everything about that machine is so fine tuned and nit-picky perfect! i love how the cd rom drive bay dorr slides down right under the front mesh grill. slick. and it was quite as hell.
 
Re: You will kill me but...

Originally posted by stid
Please, convince me I'm wrong... let me spend this next 6000$ right, on Apple. Please... convince me I'm wrong.

Sorry for my bad English.
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fear not stid...you need not spend $6000 for better performance...but a mere 10% of that...

http://eshop.macsales.com/MyOWC/Upg...I=#TimeFormat(Now(),+&shoupgrds=Show+Upgrades

the people at MacSales can help you get more power until you feel the G5 performs to your satisfaction...not to mention MUCH cheaper than "Un-Switching" to the Micro$haft World...
 
Originally posted by AngryAngel

...stid: you make very valid points. All I can say is that I am willing to pay double the price of a PC for a Mac (I just have, on my G5 1.6), just because of the OS.
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You know... I have think and think about it. And at the end, as the last 15 years... I will buy a mac.

I can't use a PC. It is also not very important if PC run a little bit faster. I just hope that some kind of pro good software will be optimized a little bit in the future. G5 result now show that we can use actual not optimized software at about 180-200% of their performance of G4.

I will buy a damn MAC G5. But this time I will wait for second generation one. I hope in December or Jenuary.

I know I'm crazy :)
 
Originally posted by stid
You know... I have think and think about it. And at the end, as the last 15 years... I will buy a mac.

I can't use a PC. It is also not very important if PC run a little bit faster. I just hope that some kind of pro good software will be optimized a little bit in the future. G5 result now show that we can use actual not optimized software at about 180-200% of their performance of G4.

I will buy a damn MAC G5. But this time I will wait for second generation one. I hope in December or Jenuary.

I know I'm crazy :)
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Take a look at this... not too bad in my opinion.

http://www.chaosmint.com/benchmarks/powermac-g5-ps7bench/
 
Time for an PCI-X add on card

With virtual PC no working on a G5 and it requiring a lot of work to fix. I wonder how long (if) Microsoft will take to get it going?

We have some Orange PC or is Orange micro cards here. I can envision a x86 addon card perhaps a P4 or what might be a better fit is an AMD Opteron or Athlon 64. This could plug into one of those new fast PCI-X slots in a G5.
Nobody could argue that you don't have the fastest computer! (Actually someone will always argue)
:)
 
Re: Time for an PCI-X add on card

Originally posted by Tim Flynn
With virtual PC no working on a G5 and it requiring a lot of work to fix. I wonder how long (if) Microsoft will take to get it going?
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Apparently about a year, and it will arrive at the same time as Office 11. I think I read that at The Register.
 
Originally posted by stid
Probably we need to wait for optimized tester.

I advise you all that xbanch v1.1 is not so good for testing OpenGl and Grphic performance.

I have a G4800DP with GeForce ti 4600 and I get same performance as G4800DP GeForce2Mx.

CINEBENCH 2003 v1 as the author said is not optimized for G5 at all.

The problem I see as a mac user is another... out there there are about 50% of the software that are just not optimized or bad optimized for G4. Don't expect G5 optimization so quickly in the future.

Just my opinion.
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barefeats reported thet cinebench dosnt use the video card, but is almost entirely cpu/memory/bus based
 
Re: Time for an PCI-X add on card

Originally posted by Tim Flynn
With virtual PC no working on a G5 and it requiring a lot of work to fix. I wonder how long (if) Microsoft will take to get it going?

We have some Orange PC or is Orange micro cards here. I can envision a x86 addon card perhaps a P4 or what might be a better fit is an AMD Opteron or Athlon 64. This could plug into one of those new fast PCI-X slots in a G5.
Nobody could argue that you don't have the fastest computer! (Actually someone will always argue)
:)
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absolutely great idea if it could use the agp card for graphics aceeleration 2-3d and cost cheaper then a equivalent pc, i sy 6-900.
 
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