Powermac g5 running mac os x panther

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Can my 2005 dual cpu powermac g5 run mac os x panther 10.3? It is the 2005 dual core cpu with 4 ram slots. I believe it shipped with 10.3.9
 
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Can my 2005 dual cpu run mac os x panther 10.3?
powermac g5 run mac os x panther 10.3? It is the 2005 dual core model with 4 ram slots. I believe it shipped with 10.3.9
The Early 2005 Dual Processor G5 will run 10.3.9, but the Late 2005 "Dual Core" G5s require 10.4.2 or later.

An easy way to identify the machines is to check the rear ports;
  • The Dual Processor has 1x Ethernet Port - Panther: Yes
  • The Dual Core has 2x Ethernet ports - Panther: No
 

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Can my 2005 dual cpu run mac os x panther 10.3?
powermac g5 run mac os x panther 10.3? It is the 2005 dual core model with 4 ram slots. I believe it shipped with 10.3.9
The Early 2005 Dual Processor G5 will run 10.3.9, but the Late 2005 "Dual Core" G5s require 10.4.2 or later.

An easy way to identify the machines is to check the rear ports;
  • The Dual Processor has 1x Ethernet Port - Panther: Yes
  • The Dual Core has 2x Ethernet ports - Panther: No
Mine has one ether net port and one phone port
 

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Can my 2005 dual cpu run mac os x panther 10.3?
powermac g5 run mac os x panther 10.3? It is the 2005 dual core model with 4 ram slots. I believe it shipped with 10.3.9
You answered your own question there. If it came with Panther, it will run Panther. Also, the site that I highly suspect you got that info from, EveryMac, does specify it can run that.
 

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You answered your own question there. If it came with Panther, it will run Panther. Also, the site that I highly suspect you got that info from, EveryMac, does specify it can run that.
honestly, i don't know what year it is. it just says 2005 on the bottom of the computer. and i got it from a friend, who got it brand new back in 2005 or 2006. they said they thought it came with panther or tiger, but they weren't sure. and the g5 has been sitting for years, with a messed up hard drive that wont get past the apple logo. similar to the issue with my other g5 tower. i tried booting from my os x disk but it wouldn't work. it didn't recognize it when i pressed c during boot. and when i looked at the boot drives list, it never recognized it. and i don't know how to format a hard drive for mac use using windows, as all my working macs take IDE hard drives, and the g5 is SATA
[doublepost=1508799476][/doublepost]how do i format a hard drive for mac use using windows 10?
 

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how do i format a hard drive for mac use using windows 10?
You can't, Windows does not support any of the Mac file systems and can't format a disk with that. You need to boot an installer disc and open Disk Utility to do this.
 

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You can't, Windows does not support any of the Mac file systems and can't format a disk with that. You need to boot an installer disc and open Disk Utility to do this.
so i put in my emty hard drive, insert the installer disk, then format the hard drive for mac use in disk utility?
[doublepost=1508804121][/doublepost]This is what it says on g5. I got this error when I used my panther disk. . I don't know who burned the disk. I got it with an ibook g3 clamshell I got for free of Craigslist. I used the disk on my imac g3, so I know it works.
 

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so i put in my emty hard drive, insert the installer disk, then format the hard drive for mac use in disk utility?
[doublepost=1508804121][/doublepost]This is what it says on g5. I got this error when I used my panther disk. . I don't know who burned the disk. I got it with an ibook g3 clamshell I got for free of Craigslist. I used the disk on my imac g3, so I know it works.
Does anyone know what that error is? AND how to fix it?
[doublepost=1508808553][/doublepost]I did some more research, and it turns out mine is a 2.3 GHz model, sold on April 2005. Can it run panther? I guess it came with it 10.4
 

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so i put in my emty hard drive, insert the installer disk, then format the hard drive for mac use in disk utility?
[doublepost=1508804121][/doublepost]This is what it says on g5. I got this error when I used my panther disk. . I don't know who burned the disk. I got it with an ibook g3 clamshell I got for free of Craigslist. I used the disk on my imac g3, so I know it works.
This may be of help:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204156
 

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It's probably a version of Panther too old to run on the G5.
Its a mac os x 10.3 installer. I don't have any macs able to burn discs

(EDIT: sorry for the bad posting quality. i have been using my phone to make posts, and the auto correct is torture, as almost all mac terms like "osx, imac, macintosh, 10.3, mac os x panther" all get auto corrected to something weird, and the iphone 5 i have been using for posting is very slow with internet, and i dont usually have time to check over my posts before posting them, as the phone will do something weird, like open the keyboard settings, or something
 
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I just have to get the g5 working because i need it to burn installer disks. my only computer able to use my portable dvd burner is a pc. my only working mac, a imac g3, dosnt support my usb burner. (the g3 dosnt have a burner. i checked)
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It's probably a version of Panther too old to run on the G5.
what versions can run on the g5? And if only os x 10.3.9, where can i get a direct installer of that? as i can only find 10.3 installers online
10.10.x cannot run on a G5. The last version supported on a G5 is 10.5.8
sorry, i meant 10.3, not 10.10.3
 
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I just have to get the g5 working because i need it to burn installer disks. my only computer able to use my portable dvd burner is a pc. my only working mac, a imac g3, dosnt support my usb burner. (the g3 dosnt have a burner. i checked)

sorry, i meant 10.3, not 10.10.3
Here are some suggestions:
  • Purchase an original retail version of OS X 10.5.x Leopard. These can be had on Ebay for around $30.00 shipped. Notice the emphasis on retail. There are some versions which are upgrades which you do not want. I recommend Leopard as it can run on all models of PowerMac G5 systems thus eliminating the need to determine which model you have.
  • See if you can find someone with a Mac who will let you use it to burn your discs. It doesn't have to be a PPC based Mac, Intel Macs will work. Post in the for sale section of Craigslist asking to see if someone can help you out. Maybe even contact someone who is selling a Mac and ask them if they'd let you use it for $20. Visit a local Mac reseller and see if they can help you out (many would be all too happy to do so).
  • Buy a new Mac which has an operating system already installed and a working optical burner (I'd recommend one which can burn DVDs just to simplify things). If all you need it for is to burn discs then you can probably pick one up cheap.
 
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Try running the Panther installer from the disc, followed by the 10.3.9 updater, from another running OS eg Tiger - the boot system on the discs will be an older 10.3.x version so probably won't work, but if you install and update it "offline" then it will work, I have 10.3.9 working on my early 2005 G5 even though the early 2005 models actually shipped with Tiger.

If you don't have another OS for the G5 you would need to get one, either 10.4 or 10.5.
 

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Here are some suggestions:
  • Purchase an original retail version of OS X 10.5.x Leopard. These can be had on Ebay for around $30.00 shipped. Notice the emphasis on retail. There are some versions which are upgrades which you do not want. I recommend Leopard as it can run on all models of PowerMac G5 systems thus eliminating the need to determine which model you have.
  • See if you can find someone with a Mac who will let you use it to burn your discs. It doesn't have to be a PPC based Mac, Intel Macs will work. Post in the for sale section of Craigslist asking to see if someone can help you out. Maybe even contact someone who is selling a Mac and ask them if they'd let you use it for $20. Visit a local Mac reseller and see if they can help you out (many would be all too happy to do so).
  • Buy a new Mac which has an operating system already installed and a working optical burner (I'd recommend one which can burn DVDs just to simplify things). If all you need it for is to burn discs then you can probably pick one up cheap.
whats the cheapest and oldest mac capable of burning dvds
 

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whats the cheapest and oldest mac capable of burning dvds
There isn't any one answer to this question. The sale price of a used Mac is dependent on what a seller is asking (or willing to accept). There are plenty of Macs which can burn DVDs and be had for low cost. Some even for free depending on the individual who has it (I've given away several over the years).
 

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There isn't any one answer to this question. The sale price of a used Mac is dependent on what a seller is asking (or willing to accept). There are plenty of Macs which can burn DVDs and be had for low cost. Some even for free depending on the individual who has it (I've given away several over the years).
Do you now the first apple computer with a built in dvd/cd burner
 

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AFAIK, they were optional on beige G3s.

The first computer to see them pretty much across the line was the Gigabit Ethernet G4 tower.

You can install an IDE/ATAPI burner in most any Mac that uses those interfaces and it should work natively in OS X.
 

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Do you now the first apple computer with a built in dvd/cd burner
I do not. However I think you're asking the wrong question. What you should be doing is setting a budget and then attempting to locate a working system, with an optical drive which can burn DVDs, within that budget. Here is an ad for someone selling a couple of early model, Intel iMacs for $75:

https://annarbor.craigslist.org/sys/d/imac-apple-for-sale/6357432835.html

I don't know how far Flint is from you but I found this:

https://flint.craigslist.org/sys/d/macintosh-apple-computers-g5/6305956258.html

$75 G5 with monitor and keyboard. Or this PowerBook for $35:

https://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/sys/d/apple-powerbook-g4-titanium/6325165252.html

In all cases I would contact the seller and confirm with them the system is capable of burning DVD discs.
 

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Or this PowerBook for $35:

https://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/sys/d/apple-powerbook-g4-titanium/6325165252.html

In all cases I would contact the seller and confirm with them the system is capable of burning DVD discs.
Only the last generation Titanium PowerBooks came(optionally) with a DVD burner(AKA Superdrive). Most of the last generation models came with a combo drive-CD-RW and DVD-ROM.

Typically, on older models you got EITHER a DVD-ROM or CD-RW. That was true of towers also.

Back in the day, it was common to see PCs set up with a DVD-ROM AND a CD-RW. With the budget of a 12 year old back around the turn of the century, I kept my high speed CD-ROM drive(52x I think or so) along side my CD-RW.
 

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Only the last generation Titanium PowerBooks came(optionally) with a DVD burner(AKA Superdrive). Most of the last generation models came with a combo drive-CD-RW and DVD-ROM.

Typically, on older models you got EITHER a DVD-ROM or CD-RW. That was true of towers also.

Back in the day, it was common to see PCs set up with a DVD-ROM AND a CD-RW. With the budget of a 12 year old back around the turn of the century, I kept my high speed CD-ROM drive(52x I think or so) along side my CD-RW.
The question I have is why the OP hasn't just purchased a retail Leopard DVD as recommended earlier. That appears to be the easiest, fastest, and most economical solution to the problem.
 
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The question I have is why the OP hasn't just purchased a retail Leopard DVD as recommended earlier. That appears to be the easiest, fastest, and most economical solution to the problem.
Agreed.

I have tried to make a working backup of one of my Leo DVDs, and I've actually NEVER successfully made one. I've probably wasted more money on DL-DVDs than the current Ebay prices for retail disks.

Consequently, I just use a retail disk. I have two of them, and if I destroy one I'll probably head to Ebay and buy a replacement.

BTW, since we're talking about burning a Leopard disk, it's worth mentioning that you need a drive capable of burning dual layer disks. I think all G5s came with a drive capable of this, but I don't know about even late G4s.

Only the last model PowerBooks came with a dual layer drive. In fact, in collector short-hand we often call these "DLSD" Powerbooks(dual layer super drive) although probably the most significant improvement for the end user is the higher resolution screen.

That's also not counting the cost of DL disks. You won't find a cake platter of them for $10-20 like you can with a DVD-R(BTW, for max compatibility with PPC Macs, err on the side of DVD-R rather than DVD+R).
 

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I have tried to make a working backup of one of my Leo DVDs, and I've actually NEVER successfully made one. I've probably wasted more money on DL-DVDs than the current Ebay prices for retail disks.
You must be doing something wrong then, or using bad hardware or burning software (doing it through Disk Utility or Finder should work fine). Several years ago I successfully installed Leopard onto a Power Mac G5 using the first dual-layer disk I burned, though later on acquired a retail disk and have since used that for all my Leopard installations.