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PowerMac G5 Upgrades Announced (Officially)

And Apple still manages to ship a powermac with standard 256 mb or RAM. What a lark.

I find these updates quite poor overall, but I'm glad they're not very good. That would make me feel inferior about my 1.6ghz Power Mac G5 (as it is, I feel awesome about it!).

I am intrigued however about this Radeon 9650. Does anyone know how it would perform in comparison to a 64mb Radeon 9600 that I have? I've been thinking about upgrading video cards, but only if I saw a notable increase in performance for general OS.
 
gorkonapple said:
I think the coolest thing on the list is the double layer DVD drives. 16 X Double Layer drives! Probably won't work too well for regular video DVD's, but for Data Storage? Man it's like, what 8 gigs on a disc now??
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Too bad there is such a huge premium for the media now [At least here in Canada]
 
BTW it's DOUBLE LAYER, not dual layer

RAS admin said:
Too bad those DVD+R DL discs don't play in any regular standalone DVD players...
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I've been burning double layer disks (Sony 720) from my TiVo, and using them in my Sony home DVD player for a few months. Use them in friend's players, in hotels....

No problems at all.

Almost all commercial movie DVDs are double-layer, and have been since the dawn of the format.

Where'd the "DL won't play in a set-top DVD" rumour come from?

ps: Note that the name is "double layer", not "dual layer". Let's not add confusion by using the wrong name - since when you go to buy blank disks they'll be labeled "double layer"
 
This is one heck of a lame update! PCI-Express? Dual Core? LOL! Oh man! The only very good thing about this is that I've been enjoying my Dual G5 2Ghz since it came out... and its still bottom of the line!! Related to the Graphics card... WTF is up with you Apple? Ever heard of good graphics cards? I really advise all users that will get one of these machines and that like to play games to get the X800 XT. It rocks :D

Other the that... Lame update! :mad:
 
Educational Prices (individual)

For individuals buying w/ an educational discount, the prices are as follows:
Single 1.8: $1,349.00 (save $150)
Dual 2.0: $1,799.00 (save $200)
Dual 2.3:$2,299.00 (save $200)
Dual 2.7: $2,699.00 (save $300)

Displays:
20: $699.00 (save $100)
23: $1,299.00 (save $200)
30: $2,699.00 (save $300)

Not bad deals there, especially the dual 2.7. Too bad my G4 500 Mhz machine works just fine with a gig of RAM for what I need a computer at home to do.
 
Capt Underpants said:
What the heck is a Radeon 9650? Get on the ball, Apple. We need x800's for top of the line graphics card. Atleast put a 9800 Pro in it...
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The 9650 gives you a cheap alternative to be able to hook up one 30" Display.

Other than that..... cr@p

No X800 XT as BTO?
 
VespR said:
Price reductions as well on the monitors and the memory :eek:

That's gonna make selling my 23" in May a lot more harder! Gawdamnit Apple :)
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No reduction on the 30" though :(
 
Too bad those DVD+R DL discs don't play in any regular standalone DVD players...
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I burn double layer DVD videos all of the time using DVD Studio Pro 3 and Toast Titanium and they play fine in standalone DVD players.


I'm so glad I didn't open up my refurbished Power Mac G5 that landed on my doorstep yesterday. It looks like the Refurbished G5 on Apple's website dropped $300 in price from what I paid for it. It's take-back time. I called Apple and they said that they'll even pay for the shipping :D .
 
Someone help me out with a vid card question?

'm getting a new powerMac today. I want to upgrade the video card for $50 from the ATI Radeon 9600 (two single link DVI ports), but the Radeon 9650 has twice the VRAM, is slightly over clocked, and has ONE dual-link DVI and a ONE single link DVI port.


But does the 9650 support two single link DVI displays (two Dell 17 Ultrasharp FP monitors)? I know I can hook both my monitors up to an ATI 9600. Is it worth the extra $50, and am I able to hook up both single link DVI monitors to the 9650?

I'm very confused and excited!
 
gorkonapple said:
I think the coolest thing on the list is the double layer DVD drives. 16 X Double Layer drives! Probably won't work too well for regular video DVD's, but for Data Storage? Man it's like, what 8 gigs on a disc now??
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I'm sorry, but everyone knows this is not cool at all. 16x double layer drives have been available very cheaply for months now, and easily retro-fitted to the old PM models. This is not a great update, and I'm deeply disappointed as I was in fact about to buy a new PM. I'll be looking at second hand units until Apple release something that's worth their inflated new prices.
 
they no longer sell the radeon 9800! And since they stopped selling the 6800GT, this means that there now is a gap in the line-up. You must either buy a mediocre 9600 or an expensive 6800Ultra. I say 6600 ultra soon.
 
JRM PowerPod said:
Mitthrawnuruodo said:
Dark Horse said:
Unless you follow the wham bam thank you mam theory of power line, consumer line, tiger wednesday thursday friday. Which I don't don't.
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Well, there's always tomorrow... and Friday...
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Or Next Tuesday
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But there aren't even any grounded rumours about any of those options....just hopeful speculation on our part!
 
RAS admin said:
Too bad those DVD+R DL discs don't play in any regular standalone DVD players...
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Sure they can - it's quite common for commercial DVDs to be dual layer. And Apple specifically mentions using iDVD to make longer movies with the dual layer drive.
 
JasonL said:
The dual 1.8 is on sale now for $1499, too.
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I think the price on that should be $999. For heaven's sake, the 1.6GHz G5 iMac, that comes with a *screen*, is $1299!

How much can a few PCI slots, different motherboard and heftier case sans monitor really be costing Apple with the 1.8 Powermac?
 
no single g5 reference ?

how comes the single g5 isn´t talked about anymore anywhere on the official site ?... the info page states that there are only 3 dual g5 systems... (at least on the new german subsite). so will this one still be dropped ?
i know the single cpu version is still in the store... but i can´t find a reference to it in the copy text...
power mac mini ? ... i know i posted this before but i guess in an already dead thread...
 
PeterQVenkman said:
'm getting a new powerMac today. I want to upgrade the video card for $50 from the ATI Radeon 9600 (two single link DVI ports), but the Radeon 9650 has twice the VRAM, is slightly over clocked, and has ONE dual-link DVI and a ONE single link DVI port.


But does the 9650 support two single link DVI displays (two Dell 17 Ultrasharp FP monitors)? I know I can hook both my monitors up to an ATI 9600. Is it worth the extra $50, and am I able to hook up both single link DVI monitors to the 9650?

I'm very confused and excited!
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Yes, the 9650 can support two "single link" DVI monitors. the dual-link DVI ports can support regular DVI displays as well.
 
macorama said:
Anyone any ideas what the old UK prices were?

Still £999 for the 1.8GHz single CPU model? That hasn't changed, I thought at least that would go down if they kept that model.

Edit: added an item on my site so you can predict when we'll finally be rid of the 1.8GHz model
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They wee a bit dearer.... since I have just ordered a Dual 2.0 for less than the old Dual 1.8 was.. and it has a 250GB disk (upgrade) and I ordered the 9650 and Bluetooth module as well and it was about the same.

I nearly went for the dual 2.3 which was about the same as the old 2.0 prices but I just couldn't justify the extra 300 when I can spend that on software and memory upgrades. (Still cheaper from Crucial etc).

Looking forward to this machine though.. loads of video editing to do and it will be quicker than doing it on my Powerbook!
 
AidenShaw said:
I've been burning double layer disks (Sony 720) from my TiVo, and using them in my Sony home DVD player for a few months. Use them in friend's players, in hotels....

No problems at all.

Almost all commercial movie DVDs are double-layer, and have been since the dawn of the format.

Where'd the "DL won't play in a set-top DVD" rumour come from?

ps: Note that the name is "double layer", not "dual layer". Let's not add confusion by using the wrong name - since when you go to buy blank disks they'll be labeled "double layer"
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Aiden is correct,


If you ever watch a DVD on an older DVD player you will notice when it switches layers. The DVD will stutter about mid way through the film for no apparent reason. Newer DVD players have higher buffers and the shift is much less noticeable.
 
Too little, too late!

How can Apple keep a straight face with this offering! ...

I was looking at getting a 9600 card way more than a year ago for my games PC ... and it was a mid range, year old card then! I didn't get it then, why would I want it now???

There is just is no excuse for using old components, they must have got a batch of the old almost obsolete AGP variety, very cheap.

I'd describe this update as more of a hardware "patch" so that business can 'feel' like they're ordering the latest and greatest PMs.

I'm predicting most hold off purchasing.
 
broken_keyboard said:
Yes... on the 1.8. I thought their new policy was 512 minimum? Another false rumor?
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The 1.8 is not an updated machine. Its specs are the same as before. I'm sure if it had been updated, it would've gotten more memory.
 
crap freakboy said:
Im just hoping the UK refurb section will offer some goodies next week, probably not though theyre usually 'as tight as a nats chuff'. Great now its raining cats and dogs outside. It never rains...
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Well I'll be checking the refurbs, too.

And it's thunder here in Acton, now...
 
I had to say it, because no one even mentioned it, but these are AVAILABLE NOW! Well 2-3 Day shipping times. What is better??? 200Mhz improvement on the top end now OR a 500Mhz improvement on the top model with a 3-4 month wait??? Or announce Dual Cores today with a (up to 6 month wait for shipping). Apple has done that many times before. At least they are giving us a little improvement, right here, right now...instead of what happened with the last update to 2.5... Does ANYONE remember the fiasco of getting the first 2.5 models shipped? Or maybe everyone has a short memory.
 
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