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Powermac X5 Professional Workstation (featuring IBM's PPC970)

What I expect Hardwarewise at the WWDC:

Powermac G5 Pro
Dual 1.25 Ghz G4s still on sale-256 MB RAM -$1199 -until end of year

1.4 GHZ 970ppc; 512 MB RAM - $1899
Dual 1.4 970ppc; 512 MB RAM - $2499
Dual 1.8 970ppc; 1 GB RAM - $3499
all cdrw superdive $200 extra

$500 Rebates towards Office v.X, Quark 6, and Photoshop 8 (will be showcased at WWDC), available this October.

Note: Rebates paid for courtesy of Motorola, for screwing Apple (and us) over sometime next year when the judgement is made.

Powerbook G4 12" 1 GHZ 1MB L2 cache $1,799
Powerbook G4 15", 17" 1.2GHZ 19W 970ppc-- 15":$2,799 17":$3,799

NO IMAC UPDATES @ THIS VENUE; especially no 970 in them until next March when the 980 debuts at WWDC in May '04.

No ibook or emac updates:Agree

tons of software updates and releases, final cul, etc.---Don't agree with; more like iPhoto, maybe the DVD suite of apps, and iChat video conferencing.

oh and one more thing: You mean the wireless display thingy? No way, not at this forum! Look around Christmas time.

2megapixel firewire based camera with flash and video conferencing stand and of course the new version of ichat: Absolutely not. I'll take the fall for this one if I'm wrong though! The best we could hope for in this area is at the very most a built video camera in the new adjustable displays.
 
I don't think that we will see the 970 til next year...Stop getting your hopes up...they are showing off Panther...not 970's... I really doubt that there will be any change to the Powermac line, not til CREATE. Panther...Panther...Panther.
 
Originally posted by Steradian
I don't think that we will see the 970 til next year...Stop getting your hopes up...they are showing off Panther...not 970's... I really doubt that there will be any change to the Powermac line, not til CREATE. Panther...Panther...Panther.
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You really think we're going to see Phil Schiller announcing new Powermacs at CREATE?

The summer Macworld is dead. Long live WWDC! CREATE is not MWNY. WWDC is. In a twisted way, though.

Besides, how would Steve explain a 64-bit OS to audience without a 64-bit machine?

"Well, it has 64-bit support. Not that we're going to use it or anything..."
 
Re: Re: Powermac X5 Professional Workstation (featuring IBM's PPC970)

Originally posted by e-coli
Try adding $1000 to each of those.

Not that I wouldn't mind seeing those prices. But I'd have to say it aint gonna happen. ;)
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Wow do you really think Apple will unveil the bottom end 970 with cdrw at $2899.
they do want to sell some, they do want to increase market share right?
at this price they can keep the current powermac g4's in the line also.

My original crystal ball took into account that apple would give in on thier 34% or more profit per unit to increase market share and also thier recent price cuting.
but this is apple we are talking (about so here is my revised crystal ball)
hat I expect Hardwarewise at the WWDC:

Powermac G5 Pro
Dual 1.25 Ghz G4s still on sale-256 MB RAM $1299 -$1499 -until end of year (they got alot of these left, better to take a loss now and clear them out while they are still worth something, this will force older used powermac G4 cpu upgrade prices and used powermac prices way down to the bargain bin))

Powermac X5:
1.4 GHZ 970ppc; 256 MB RAM - $1999
1.6 GHZ 970ppc; 512 MB RAM - $2499
Dual 1.8 970ppc; 1 GB RAM - $3299 avail in sept.
all superdrive
from what i here the 970 1.4 is faster then the dual powermac 1.42 slightly, but slower then the p4, while the 1.6 is right on par with the p4, and the dual 1.8 quite a bit faster, would love to know fps in games and plugins in logic or mp3/dvd encoding/decoding, oh well soon very soon)

some rebates to clear out remaining powermac G4s Rebates towards Office v.X, Quark 6, and Photoshop 8 (will be showcased at WWDC), available this October.


Powerbook G4 12" 1 GHZ 1MB L2 cache $1,799

Powerbook X5 15", 17" 1.2GHZ 19W 970ppc-- 15":$2499 17":$3299

Possible Imac update to 1GHZ g4 15" $1199
and 1.25 GHZ G$ 17" $1699 both with 1MB L3 cache July or august upgrade

No ibook or emac updates:Agree

1 new app (office?) more xp apps announced


2megapixel firewire based camera with flash and video conferencing stand and of course the new version of ichat:
 
is this it

i hope it looks better than that picture, should be 2 diff sizes for single and dual, have to wait till monday to find out
 
Guys stop talking about this **** prices !

Apple cant go that high with the prices than the will sell less Power Macs and they even sell not many !


Which normal user wil lbuy a PM G5 with DUAL 1.8 for 6000 $
when even the 1.4 Single 3000 $ costs ?

BULL**** !

The will introduce the G5 with the prices which are nox on the Power Macs they will stay !

1. Apple gets the Chip less expensive from IBM, moto wanted much money ! There will be much more PPC970 in Production than G4s because of the PPC970 Rack servers from IBM so its cheaper and we know IBM can build cheap chips ! :))

2. They will make it with the quantitie "They say hey ! When we annonce the G5 much more people will buy a PM because nobody wants since 1 year an old G4 with crap performace, everybody want the Killer G5 now they get and will buy ! So Apple will have good margins beacuse I say the will double the sell rates of the Power Macs with the introduction of the G5 !
 
PowerBook:
  • 12" 1 Ghz (G4)
  • 15" 1 Ghz - 1.3 Ghz (G4)
  • 17" 1.3 Ghz (G4)
PowerMacs
  • 1.6, 1.8 & 2.0 Ghz (PPC970)
Software
  • Panther Preview
  • Safari 1.0
  • Itunes 4.02, Ipod 2.01
  • iPal 1.0
Hardware
  • ipal

I don't have a clue on prices but this is my guess. I have a feeling the PowerBooks will have the 970 but the logical side of me says still G4's. The PowerMacs won't have duals anymore.

Can't wait till monday to see how much of this is true, if any. Maybe we should have a prize for the person who gets the closest. Since pricing is very hard to speculate, the winner will be the one with the closest hardware/sofware specs.

Prizes:
1st Place - Apple hat and a free noogie
2nd Place - Apple sticker
3rd Place - Apple pen
 
i hope you are right

i originally added $200 to the current prices because of apple's past practices.
for instance when the orig g4 was out they had mega demand but could not ship the 500MHZ model because of our favorite company (moto).
What did Apple do to all of the people dying to but one , they upped the prices.
when the imac g4 came out and they could not keep up demand in a downturned economy what did they do just 2 months after release before most even got thiers, you got it they upped the prices.
Apple simply wants 34% or more profit per machine, darn the marketshare.
and just look at the a;most required ilife debacule, not to mention yearly $129 upgrades.
It is pretty much a given that these machines will cost Apple much less to produce, so you would think they will keep prices the same $1499-1999-2499-2699. but this is apple we are talking about.
i personally wish they would ship at $1299 1.4, $1499 1.6, $1999 dual 1.6,
$2499 dual 1.8 as that will go a long way toward gaining market share.
and liquidate remaining single 1ghz powermac at $999, dual 1.25 at $1299, dual 1.42 at $1499 and get rid of them quick at that price they would go fast and the dual1.42 should be as fast as the 970 1.4 at most things.
its time for a major price shakeup and performance boost we powermac g4 users have waited long enough even if this does slow sales of the imac emac in the short term until they are updated next.
unfortunately Apple prices itself out of many potential switchers budjet because of over inflated 34%+ profit margin.
The econmy is coming back slightly there is pent up demand for these, give the customers a price breakthrough to get these to move out as fast as they can make em.
 
K on some things you might have right, but look Apple loses Users in the High performance area and there market share is sinking so the need a Kick ass Computer (CPU) to get the users back and win new !


So from my I see a very low G4 for entry and after that the PPC970 with a max rising in price of 100 or 200 $ but not more !

And nothing from Superdrive + !!

All machines will have it as standard or the 2 big models !!!!
Apple will get you in the DVD Hype with there software so why they should let it out and let pay you extra !

From my site a G4 @ 1,42 is more expensive than a 1,4 PPC970 or even a PPC970 @ 1,6 iam sure in this !

Today IBM will show there Rack servers with PPC970 and the performacne, so the will build many Chips be sure !

So good margins in East Fishkill (one of the best factorys not as bad as Moto factorys) with the new good technologie you will see how cheap they are for Apple!

And a radical Price reductions in all Models will come with the introduction from the PPC980 beacause when the PM gets this one others will get PPC970. And than Apple will or (can) put all prices on all systems down !!!!

Now they cant ! for example set a iMac G4 300 down and same on other models ! All will cry why i paid so much on this Computers ??? Apple is making so much money on me ???
S**t Company ....

You know what I mean but when all systems get PPC970 they can say now they getting this chip extremly cheap and the PPC980 for Pro Systems !
 
prizez

Originally posted by bertagert
PowerBook:
  • 12" 1 Ghz (G4)
  • 15" 1 Ghz - 1.3 Ghz (G4)
  • 17" 1.3 Ghz (G4)
PowerMacs
  • 1.6, 1.8 & 2.0 Ghz (PPC970)
Software
  • Panther Preview
  • Safari 1.0
  • Itunes 4.02, Ipod 2.01
  • iPal 1.0
Hardware
  • ipal

I don't have a clue on prices but this is my guess. I have a feeling the PowerBooks will have the 970 but the logical side of me says still G4's. The PowerMacs won't have duals anymore.

Can't wait till monday to see how much of this is true, if any. Maybe we should have a prize for the person who gets the closest. Since pricing is very hard to speculate, the winner will be the one with the closest hardware/sofware specs.

Prizes:
1st Place - Apple hat and a free noogie
2nd Place - Apple sticker
3rd Place - Apple pen
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you have the speeds but no duals i have the duals but spped.2 too slow cuz i listened to all the rumor site and ibm site saying 1.4-1.8 initial so i took ibm word it was wrong, we must split the prize
 
Re: prizez

Originally posted by daveg5
you have the speeds but no duals i have the duals but spped.2 too slow cuz i listened to all the rumor site and ibm site saying 1.4-1.8 initial so i took ibm word it was wrong, we must split the prize
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I just want the hat. Of course I called ipod 2.01 and that came out today (which made my new 15 gig work much better I might add). We still have to wait till Monday. I guess I'm way off on the ipal thing as many have pointed out that its a fake.

Lets wait till monday and then tally the score sheet.
 
prizes in escrow

this may be a deliberate tease by Apple to throw us off, the speeds could be much faster and the 970 could be put in more machines.
if it was a hacker and apple only has 1.4 ghz singles,
the hacker should be shot as it could really hurt apple's sales,
cause we will all be upset.
I am gonna stay optimistic and hope for at least what was leaked, i wont have the money for the dual until xmas anyway $2500 or less i hope.
peace
 
I was spot on!!

Did I call the firewire camers at 149 or whathttps://forums.macrumors.com/images/icons/icon14.gif
did i call the powermac g4 125 at 1299
or what and the dual 125 100 off 1999 entry g5 (isaid 1.4) 100 off on mid and 300 off on top. not bad
although the other guy got the speeds before the leak right and desrves the hat
i want the mug.
come on macrumors give us are prizes
hehejavascript:smilie(':rolleyes:')
 
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