PowerPC Macs, Which one is best?

[ww2_1943]

It can kind of not really hold its own today IF you upgrade the processor to the admittedly low horsepower G4 upgrade. That is the only G3 laptop where you can do that.

I have two with 550mhz G4s. I actually just used a website for work on InterWebPCC. It worked surprisingly well. Still, it’s a novelty. I could have easily used my MBA M1

 

[eyoungren]

I’ll have to take your word on that. I’ve never used an iPhone, an iPad, or an iPod Touch. I have never found appealing the way Apple handled glass UI-based products.

What turned me off early on was Apple’s aggressive policy to lock the system in place, making it completely closed, and requiring “jailbreaking” to do anything else with the handheld hardware. I long wondered what a more OS X-oriented iteration of the iPhone (or iPad) might have been like, in which extensibility and interoperability in a handheld were prioritized and not branched away from OS X into something else (i.e., a closed ecosystem, walled ”garden“, and app store).

I came to iOS/iPhone from Windows Mobile Pro. I was used to running around an OS. All my iPhones have been jailbroken with the exception of my latest (11 Pro Max). I don't like that I can't navigate a file system anymore (I had two options with my jailbreak) but a lot of what I'm doing now, a lot of the workarounds I've worked out, don't require it anymore.

Because of those workarounds I'm also not locked into Apple's ecosystem. I use it of course because it's convenient, but everything important is backed up somewhere else. As an example, because I use Dropbox and Google Photos to back up every image my phones take/download as well as those on my Mac(s) all of it including the important images are secure.

I broke my 11PM about three weeks ago and just yesterday noticed I was missing large gaps of images. Dumping all my photos in to the Photos app on my Mac Pro put everything (and then some) back on my phone(s). About 11K photos and images. But I had them, because I don't depend on Apple to have all of it.

I had to look this up. Honestly, it appears app icons are flattened and redesigned, and the 3D glass dock is removed, but otherwise pretty much what Apple were doing to OS X/macOS around the time of El Capitan/Sierra, right?

Also, I think Ive mostly was tasked with the industrial design of Apple hardware — not so much the skeuromorphic elements of earlier iOS or older OS X, or the flattened, post-Aqua/Marble UI of OS X and, later, the post-Yosemite flatness of macOS. While I’m sure he was invited to chime in as one of the folks in meetings, I doubt he was central to the UI/UX core team behind those design decisions. Of course, I’m only guessing.

Yes, Ive took over from Scott Forstall. The battle at Apple during that time was over skeumorphic (Forstall) or flat (Ive). Ive won and we all paid the price. Recent iOS releases have started to ease up on that (around iOS 10) but there for a while you couldn't get rid of the damn color.

That was another reason I was jailbreaking. I had 'dark mode' in iOS 6 onwards.

 

[B S Magnet]

Yes, Ive took over from Scott Forstall. The battle at Apple during that time was over skeumorphic (Forstall) or flat (Ive). Ive won and we all paid the price. Recent iOS releases have started to ease up on that (around iOS 10) but there for a while you couldn't get rid of the damn color.

That was another reason I was jailbreaking. I had 'dark mode' in iOS 6 onwards.

Ah. I was unaware Ive had a hand in the UI. It’s definitely not his strong suit.

 

[Amethyst1]

I have two with 550mhz G4s. I actually just used a website for work on InterWebPCC. It worked surprisingly well. Still, it’s a novelty. I could have easily used my MBA M1

Of course one can always use a newer machine if available. But where's the fun in that?

 

[ww2_1943]

Of course one can always use a newer machine if available. But where's the fun in that?

Exactly! I didn't want to do work last night, but some how working on a PowerMac G5 and Pismo made it engaging for me lol. It is also a nice reminder that everything didn't work so instantaneously in the not so distant past.

 

[sheapuppy]

i have the dual processor (not dual core) 2.3ghz one with nvidia 6800 gt ddl, but unfortunately the sata port on the board is broken so it needs a pci sata card like sil3112/sil3114 to use the hdd

i am actually thinking of getting rid of it and some other machines since they take up so much space and i dont use most of them often since i have the g5 quad and g4 mdd, if you are close maybe we can sort something out if interested. i am in central ky

Idk if you've gotten rid of it but you could probably part the PSU, case, and GPU.

 

[originaldotexe]

Idk if you've gotten rid of it but you could probably part the PSU, case, and GPU.

holy necropost xD

that was years ago, it was given to a friend who is using it as an itunes library server now

 

[sheapuppy]

holy necropost xD

that was years ago, it was given to a friend who is using it as an itunes library server now

Nice! Those 6800 GT DDL GPUs are really nice in that they are one of the few AGP cards that can drive a 30" CinemaDisplay at full resolution 2560 x 1440.

 

[TSE]

I have a soft spot for the iMac G3. In particular the snow and gray colors. Those were all over my school's computer labs when I was in third grade and my fascination with them was the first sign that I was going to be a designer and a fan of consumer tech.

 

[Amethyst1]

Those 6800 GT DDL GPUs are really nice in that they are one of the few AGP cards that can drive a 30" CinemaDisplay at full resolution 2560 x 1440.

There are several AGP cards that can run one 30" (not counting a flashed FireGL X3). The 6800s' feat is they can run two.

• GeForce 6800 GT DDL
• GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL
• Radeon 9600 PC&Mac Edition
• Radeon 9650
• Radeon X800 XT
• Radeon X850 XT

 

[iBookmaster]

iMac G4 for me. Mainly the design. I have 4 of them.

 

[mac57mac57]

I've just discovered this post. Even though mine is slowly failing, the PowerMac G5 Quad is my hands down favorite, followed VERY closely by the G4 Cube, simply a brilliant design.

Another very close runner up is my 2.3 GHz PowerMac G5 DP. I use it regularly, but I am always amazed at how much faster my G5 Quad feels subjectively compared to the G5 DP. There shouldn't be THAT much difference between them, but there really is.

0.2 GHz doesn't explain it, and MOST software of the day was not well optimized for multi processor. So, the seemingly large leap in performance between the DP and the Quad still baffles me

 

[Doq]

0.2 GHz doesn't explain it, and MOST software of the day was not well optimized for multi processor. So, the seemingly large leap in performance between the DP and the Quad still baffles me

Software might not be optimised for multiprocessing, but the OS definitely was, and it will absolutely send four separate tasks down each of the four cores on a Quad.

More cores will always be a benefit at least indirectly as background tasks are handled by the many cores.