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PowerPC Support in Mac OS X 10.6 After All?
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If it does everything you need it to why would you upgrade your OS? Your current OS is suiting you just fine.
I am beginning to think that Apple has already dropped PPC support. I currently have a last generation G5 iMac 2.1 with 1.5gig ram that is noticeably slower than it was running under Tiger. I am also having issues with iPhoto "09 that have been escalated from Tech Support to Software Support and is now in the hands of the engineers who wrote the code. I am thinking of going back to Tiger on my G5 as it ran mint B4 the "upgrade". For the record I am running Tiger as well on my older upgraded G4 "digital audio" powermac and even a G3 powerbook at 500Mhz. I am unemployed right now and have to agree with an earlier reply that we are not all made of money and am hoping that Apple will iron out the existing wrinkles and maintain PPC support for the near future.
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why should we really care? PPC is a rather good platform. the think you guys talk about is hwhat your experience with this and comments about this in usage of the mac os is. that HAS NOTHING to do with the hardware. I evaluated for my job operating systems to see where the faults are. I really think you guys got perturbed in your computer and letters to type your movements.
why should we really care? PPC is a rather good platform. the think you guys talk about is hwhat your experience with this and comments about this in usage of the mac os is. that HAS NOTHING to do with the hardware. I evaluated for my job operating systems to see where the faults are. I really think you guys got perturbed in your computer and letters to type your movements.
I'm confused at the point you're trying to make. Could you elaborate, please?
Umm... Yes?
PPC is still a widely used platform (IBM mainframes, game consoles, PDAs, phones, etc). But its not the direction apple is headed and there has not been a new desktop PPC cpu in a while.
Could you give me a heads up on when there was a transition within the PC world from one architecture to a completely different one....Oh, that's right, it hasn't happened!
Your post isn't comparing apples to oranges, its comparing a bag of apples to a SUV.
Aren't there also some programs that only run on intel out now?
Writing/compiling/debugging dual architecture programs is going to be a big pain-in-the-ass for new programs like AutoCAD...
We had a client that early last year finally gave up their pentium based Compaqs. It's hard to flush old architecture out of the hands of cheap and satisfied users, no matter how much sense it makes to do so...
But Apple will do what they want. What pre-OS X os was it that abandoned many users? I remember it being a real mess with lots of gnashing of teeth... For me, it was a non-issue at the time. Others had major issues.
Part of the problem with Windows is that it has to support the old stuff because the old stuff has been carried through from the beginning. Apple has a certain 'luxury' of having such a smaller industry footprint. If Redmond all of the sudden abandoned all of their users with a new and more modern Windows os, there would be much blood in the streets. It probably needs to happen BUT Redmond has been the biggest victim of their past, and it has repercussions on their future...
Writing/compiling/debugging dual architecture programs is going to be a big pain-in-the-ass for new programs like AutoCAD...
We had a client that early last year finally gave up their pentium based Compaqs. It's hard to flush old architecture out of the hands of cheap and satisfied users, no matter how much sense it makes to do so...
But Apple will do what they want. What pre-OS X os was it that abandoned many users? I remember it being a real mess with lots of gnashing of teeth... For me, it was a non-issue at the time. Others had major issues.
Part of the problem with Windows is that it has to support the old stuff because the old stuff has been carried through from the beginning. Apple has a certain 'luxury' of having such a smaller industry footprint. If Redmond all of the sudden abandoned all of their users with a new and more modern Windows os, there would be much blood in the streets. It probably needs to happen BUT Redmond has been the biggest victim of their past, and it has repercussions on their future...
That was the point that I was going to make. People here have G3's and G4's running Leopard and you couldn't get a Pentium-MMX to run Vista if you pleaded with god himself... Apple did eventually kill off the 68k support over time. How long did that take??? If anyone knows, then maybe Apple would follow the same time span? (Or was that the time they abandoned their users with an os upgrade? I remember much gnashing of teeth over some big change that Apple did with their older os but can't remember the specifics.)
For me, all the transition made sense. The move from Mac OS 9 to X made sense because OS 9 was crap - slow, unreliable, crash prone and 20 years behind the times. There were tangible benefits to me in the long run that I could appreciate. Same can be said for Intel as well.
The only people who have complained are those who haven't got the slightest understanding of how the world operates; who think that everything can be 'done' simply because they want it done - kinda like some of clueless here who think that Apple could make a custom GPU or CPU *rolls eyes*
The main thing for me is to know if I really "need" 10.6... do I?... does 10.6 will enable me to do new things or take better pictures or write better music? dont think so...so I need it? no.
I will get it because I just got a shiny new MBP 13" wich will have a cheap way to go to 10.6 but thats all...
I have at home:
Powermac G3 233 working with Os9.22
Ibook G3 300 working with OSX10.3
Ibook G3 500 with OSX10.3
Ibook G4 1.42 with OSX 10.4
Powermac G4 400 with OSX 10.4
Imac Core Duo (first gen) working really fine with and OSX 10.5
MacbookPro 2.26 with OSX 10.5 and soon going to 10.6
and every mac does its job perfectly.
stop complaining people!
I will get it because I just got a shiny new MBP 13" wich will have a cheap way to go to 10.6 but thats all...
I have at home:
Powermac G3 233 working with Os9.22 Ibook G3 300 working with OSX10.3 Ibook G3 500 with OSX10.3 Ibook G4 1.42 with OSX 10.4 Powermac G4 400 with OSX 10.4 Imac Core Duo (first gen) working really fine with and OSX 10.5 MacbookPro 2.26 with OSX 10.5 and soon going to 10.6and every mac does its job perfectly.
stop complaining people!
Yay! I bought my first Mac two years ago, and Apple already dropped support for my piece-of-$%!# overpriced computer that I only bought for the operating system! Hooray, I'm so happy! In fact, I don't care at all! Let's celebrate at how good of a company Apple is.
The main thing for me is to know if I really "need" 10.6... do I?... does 10.6 will enable me to do new things or take better pictures or write better music? dont think so...so I need it? no.
I will get it because I just got a shiny new MBP 13" wich will have a cheap way to go to 10.6 but thats all...
I have at home:
and every mac does its job perfectly.
stop complaining people!
How about you stop telling people to quit their complaining, not everyone is rich like (apparently) you.
You bought a PowerPC computer two years ago, meaning one year into the Intel transition, meaning you knew that newer computers existed and that Apple would eventually stop supporting your computer. End of story. Go whine on a Microsoft forum.
I was speaking in the perspective of someone who bought it right very before the transition was made, whatever year that was. However, I was pretty close to that. I purchased an iMac G5 in April 2005, and already Apple gave up on me. I have an intel iMac as well that I just purchased in Sept 08, but I'm still pissed that Apple is quitting on my other computer that I spent a thousand dollars for, just 4 years ago.. No other company does that.
And guess what. My '08 aluminum intel imac isn't even fully supported by snow leopard. So I have every reason to "whine". Nothing will change if nobody "whines", if that's the word you want to use. Get real, not everyone is full of money, and there are a huge amount of people that ONLY purchase Apple computers for the operating system. So they're forced to pay for overpriced junk computers that Apple makes and sells, just to use their OS... and then next thing they know, Apple isn't even supporting their computers anymore.
Anyone could easily go the Hackintosh route and probably have an even better experience with OS X due to better hardware and less money spent, but some people just want to stay loyal.
So I've been loyal to Apple for 4 years, and they haven't done jack #$&% for me. I'm going Hackintosh next time, so the only one to blame is me if something does not work, then you won't have to hear me "whining". How's that sound?
First: this is what happens in an architecture switch. Two, you knew that there were newer machines that had an entirely different chip system. tres, that's spanish for three. Four: Apple isn't dropping support for your computer, it's just not going to be able to run an OS optimized for a different architecture. It's not like I'm complaining my Macbook Pro doesn't run OS X iPhone.
Microsoft Windows doesn't support any computer for any period of time, and most companies like Dell only give you 3 years support. You got 4 years of real software support for that iMac, not to mention another major update coming for it (10.5.8). It will have software / security updates for at least another year (just like tiger did) making that machine supported for 5 years. When that support ends, put linux on it and keep it for another 5 years.
Now pipe down, no one likes to read garbled swear words.
Not at all... almost every mac I have I got it used, I got my Powermac G4 with a change for a Sony PSP...and all the G3s were going to be trashed and I rescued them.
this is not a cuestion of money...answer me a simply question:
do you really NEED the soon to come OSX?
Does anyone need it? The reason why people run OS X right now is cause it gets their job done in an enjoyable fashion (or, it just gets their job done). Snow Leopard will just enhance it. So the answer to your question is: no, I don't. But I'm pretty sure, you don't need it either. It's a nice enhancement though, given that your computer supports everything in it.
Microsoft is not like Apple. They make an operating system, but don't require you purchase Microsoft-made computers in order to use it. Heck, you could build your own computer running Windows.
Apple makes OS X, yet they make crap computers that cost thousands of dollars to run their operating system on. Now when people purchase thousand dollar computers, especially when Apple is keeping hundreds and hundreds of that as profit, you expect top-notch everything. Also, the operating system (which was the ONLY reason you purchased an Apple) should be supported for years to come as well. When 3-4 years later Apple decides to slack off and release an operating system that doesn't support your thousand dollar overpriced machine, people get angry. Especially the people that only purchased these Apple machines in the first place was SOLELY for the privilege of running OS X! And now you can't use the future OS X versions, even when your computer should be perfectly capable of running it- it's just that Apple slacked off, and Apple is going totally downhill...
Sure, okay. If Apple doesn't offer what you want, more power to you. I don't really care.
I am not the one that is crying because my Powermac wont be able to use it...the G4s are really happy with OSX 10.4 and I will get 10.6 only because will be cheaper, but its not something that takes away my sleep. I can live without it.
I use my Powermac as a file server (managing big quantity of pictures)... use my laptops for wife and me around the house wireless...use the Imac to edit my pics and make some music with garageband, the G3s if I have some classic aps to use, and the new macbookpro is intended to show my work to potential costumers.
What do you do with your Mac?
I think you care more for the shiny looks and newer OS of your computer than a real and professional use of them.
Question: Why are you hanging around in a Mac forum when you aren't a Mac user? What is it with Windows users who feel the need to troll Mac forums and make up stories to justify their computer of choice?
Nope...I think you like to show your toys, not really use them...the quality, and capacity of my macs (even the older ones) are the reason I keep them running.
and they simply keep working...
by the way I have a really old PC...but its collecting dust, cant find any driver even for the crappy audio card... called Compaq service and they told me they dont have them... trashy computers, my beige G3 is laughing everyday of the PC. hehehe.
For one, I do have to agree with you. At least to me, it seems that Apple doesn't really care about their more loyal customers, the ones that have been buying Apple for 10 or 15 years. But that's how things go, I suppose.
You either pay an arm and a leg for mid-end hardware and a pretty decent OS, or you pay less for the same hardware and a fairly unpredictable OS.