PPC 970 in July?

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001
    MacBidouille also posts two updates with rumors of the upcoming PPC 970.

    According to the rumor posts, they claim that the 970 should be available as soon as July, and expect advances to a 0.09 micron process by Spring of 2004. Meanwhile, the Power5 derivative chip should come in between 2.8-4.5 GHz.

    They also report that Apple is testing prototype PowerPC970 motherboards with DDR 400, USB 2.0 and AGP 8x.
  2. zer0army macrumors regular

    Jan 28, 2003
  3. Hemingray macrumors 68030


    Jan 9, 2002
    Ha ha haaa!
    GDR? I'm not familiar with that... something-data-rate? Giga? Beats me... :D

    [EDIT: Oookay, gotcha. Thought I was missing out on some new technology or something!]
  4. djkut macrumors member

    Aug 10, 2002
    I hope this is true...

    A 970 kick-off at MWNY would be incredible...even if the chips did take as long as the 17" powerbook.:rolleyes:

    Anyways, I long for the 970's release, hopefully accompanied by a new case design (not a big fan of the MDD).

    Why is this a Page 2 rumor? Is Mac Bidoulle a page 2 source?
  5. t^3 macrumors regular

    Oct 17, 2001
  6. macphoria macrumors 6502a


    Nov 29, 2002
    There's been news about G4 updates from Motorola, meaning it is more likely to see at least one more G4 related update on Macs than IBM 970 showing up in Apple products this Summer.
  7. Victoriatus macrumors member

    Dec 25, 2002
    Oulu, Finland
    Just a failed automatic translation. DDR is Deutche Democratiche Republik -- German Democratic Republic in English, therefore DDR is translated as GDR.
  8. reedm007 macrumors member

    Mar 17, 2002
  9. MrMacMan macrumors 604


    Jul 4, 2001
    1 Block away from NYC.
    Me being a skeptic I don't see 970 released this summer.
    Unless, then the shipping date is like 2-3 months. ;)

    Well yeah.
  10. Niknar macrumors member

    Feb 8, 2003
    One word "Cool!"

    So new 970's in the PowerMacs and new G4s in the iMac/eMac.

    Very cool :)
  11. Dont Hurt Me macrumors 603

    Dont Hurt Me

    Dec 21, 2002
    Yahooville S.C.
    Re: PPC 970 in July?

    wish i knew french so i could read the report,and how the heck does this frenchie know whats going on in california all the time before we do?Is there a secret apple lab in France? I guess they have a good source.
  12. MacCoaster macrumors 6502a


    Jul 15, 2002
    Washington, DC / Rochester, NY / Lexington, NC
    Re: Re: PPC 970 in July?

    Alright, the original text [le texte original]:
    Your translation, a rough one [la traduction]:
    No, I'm not French, but I'm learning French. :)
  13. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

    Mr. Anderson

    Nov 1, 2001
    Now that's a road map I like - seeing regular updates. Very cool, can't wait to see it.

  14. howard macrumors 68020


    Nov 18, 2002
    it would be neat to have the existing usb devices be able to handle usb 2. its not like it'll take up an extra plug or anything. i know its not as good as firewire but why not have both!
  15. skunk macrumors G4


    Jun 29, 2002
    Republic of Ukistan
    Re: Re: Re: PPC 970 in July?

    Not bad ;) Now all you have to do is get your English sorted out! :D
  16. NSObject macrumors newbie

    Feb 28, 2003
    Berlin, Germany
    Well, wouldn't it be nice to have these CPU's in our Macs, everyone wants faster Macs, am I right?
    I believe that's the only gap to the PC-Users.
    Or do we really want to wait for new Motorola CPU's, they are so far behind Intel, aren't they? I don't want to see these slow CPU's in new Macs, we need faster Chips, defenitly.

  17. pyrotoaster macrumors 65816


    Dec 28, 2002
    Oak Park, IL
    If Apple decides to participate in the summer expo.

    MWNY will take place with or without a Jobsian presence, but Apple is still on the fence about whether or not it will come.
    Maybe this is a sign to IBM, "if you build it, they will come... to MWNY."

    Actually, what I find really interesting is that in two days we see two major stories about the 970. Imagine a Dual 2.5 GHz Powermac in July...
  18. Kethoticus macrumors 6502


    Pyrotoaster wrote...

    Imagining is about all we can do right now. I've learned from past experience that if something sounds too good to be true, it usually is.

    I'm more willing to bet that IF these chips ever make it into Macs, we won't see them any sooner than MWSF2004, and even then they might top out at only 1.8GHz.

    I have nothing to substantiate my opinions here. Just tired of all the hype and unrealized hopes rumors tend to provide. I certainly would love to be wrong.
  19. nuckinfutz macrumors 603


    Jul 3, 2002
    Middle Earth

    Have a little Faith Brother.

    Look at some of the clues.

    1. IBM opens new Fishkill Foundry 2.5Billion smackers
    2. IBM plans to support Linux on PPC
    3. IBM announces processor with a SIMD unit(970)
    3. PPC 970 is a PowerPC. Already mostly binary compat w/apple
    4. Rumors galore...TGB, Omigroups Chief etc
    5. Rumors about Motorola cancelling G5 aimed at Desktop
    6. IBM press release mentioning Alitvec by Trademark.
    8. Apple CFO announces that Apple expects to hit 8 Billion in Revenue and increase Marketshare to 5%. A %66 increase.
    9. Steve Jobs is quoted as saying "I like options"

    I mean it doesn't take Blues Clues to realize that this is probably going to happen. Apple has nowhere else to go. Certainly not x86. I believe Apple and IBM have been working on this for at least a year...probably more.
  20. djkut macrumors member

    Aug 10, 2002

    That was hillarious...were you going for the field of dreams line? Anyways, great sig for yourself.
  21. Nuc macrumors 6502a


    Jan 20, 2003
    I have to say that I have been disappointed with the way Apple is usually always behind the market in computer chips. I have a 500 MHz G3 PB that I bought two years ago, and it has saved my tush so many times that I can't count!
    schoolwork + no crashes = more time to play!

    But I am waiting for the beast that devours the PC world.

    I would like to see Apple put a chip in that completely blows away the competition, and continues to do so for many years to come. I don't believe that the PPC 970 is the solution (but I guess they have to go with what they got). I don't know how these chips compare to others but in my department we run Fortran programs that do reactor physics, which involves math which I don't want to go into. However the calculations take a week to complete with a quad processor (these are faster than Pentium 4). I would like to see this cut in half by a Apple computer. But what do I know, we could all be wrong as to what Apple decides to do next, but it better be fast!
  22. Maz macrumors newbie

    Jan 30, 2003
    I follow Macbidouille quite closely - they seem to have some good information (although as it has been pointed out, it helps if you speak French :) )

    I'm not a fan of automatic translations, so for clarification, "Le taux de processeurs valides et tournant 2 Ghz ou plus, a dépassé toutes leurs espérances." means "The yield of fully functioning processors which clock at 2Ghz or more exceeded all their expectations."

    Seems like they may have their production quality going nicely from the start!
  23. MacCoaster macrumors 6502a


    Jul 15, 2002
    Washington, DC / Rochester, NY / Lexington, NC
    Re: Re: Re: Re: PPC 970 in July?

    Blah, I'm from the US. I do well in US English, just don't do well in thinking about better translations from French to English as they have different orders and usages of the articles, etc. Blah!

    At least mine is a lot better than the automatic translation. Plus, I know my English is many times better than some ahem southern hicks around where I live. :p
    A ha, "taux" can also be meant for "yield rate." I didn't know that. I was taught that it was primarily as "rate."

    Thanks for the clarification! I'm not fluent in French ["du tout" ;)], yet... but I love to learn French. It's a great language, especially for a fifth language. :)
  24. skunk macrumors G4


    Jun 29, 2002
    Republic of Ukistan
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: PPC 970 in July?

    I didn't mean to be mean :) You're a million times better than babelfish!
  25. laukev7 macrumors member

    Feb 28, 2003
    Actually, the phrase should have been "Power 5 avec altivec non castré" and means that the chip will not be crippled, and will feature Altivec. The word "castré" means "crippled", not "feature".

    Interesting how a translation of a badly constructed sentence can make such a difference...

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