PPC netbook 12 inch PB or Clamshell iBook?

Discussion in 'PowerPC Macs' started by InuNacho, Dec 11, 2012.

  1. InuNacho macrumors 65816


    Apr 24, 2008
    In that one place
    Currently my main machine is a ginormous 17inch MBP which is cool and all, but when it comes to just typing something up on the go, it's a huge pain. I need something small but efficient and I've narrowed it down to those two in terms of reliability, my main issues are what they can and cannot do.

    How well does the iBook run 3D games like Quake, I'd imagine that UT would be a no go. If the iBook can't run it would Classic Environment run stuff like that alright?

    I don't know where my OS 9 disc is so could I clone my PM's OS 9 partition and slap it on the iBook without any problems?
  2. MultiFinder17 macrumors 68000


    Jan 8, 2008
    Tampa, Florida
    If portability is your primary concern, go with the 12" PowerBook, no questions. Realize that the clamshell iBook weighs 6.7lb, and your 17" MBP weighs 6.6lb. The PowerBook will also be a much faster machine, it can run much more up-to-date software, faster WiFi, higher resolution screen, and a much better keyboard.

    The iBook runs 3D games like a midrange computer from 1999. Neither of them are gaming machines, but the PowerBook will offer you much, much better graphics performance.

    Yes, you can clone your OS 9 setup onto the iBook. That would be the primary advantage of the iBook over the PowerBook - it can run OS 9. If you can live without that though, go for the PowerBook, no questions asked.
  3. rjcalifornia macrumors 6502a


    Oct 4, 2012
    El Salvador
    May be you could consider a 12 inches Powerbook G4 1.33 Ghz with 1.25 GB of RAM.

    Stay away from the Clamshell!!!!!
  4. skateny macrumors 6502


    Jul 19, 2012
    New York, NY
    I'd get both, then drop the Clamshell off a roof.
  5. ChrisMan287 macrumors 6502


    Nov 18, 2012
  6. Imixmuan macrumors 6502

    Dec 18, 2010
    12 inch powerbook handsdown or, Dell Mini 10v hackintosh. Clamshell for historic OS 9 fun only.
  7. Falstaff macrumors member

    Dec 11, 2012
    Been using Macs since 1989. If your looking for a daily user, the PB will give much better performance and milage.
    But if your looking for fun laptop to mess around with and don't have real high expectations, go ahead buy a Clamshell. Note that they are a pain to work on if you plan on upgrading things like the hard drive, you basically have to disassemble the whole laptop. But they can be fun to mess around with and they're value as a collectors piece is going up rapidly.
  8. Davy.Shalom macrumors 6502


    Dec 23, 2008
    Get the powerbook. The benefit to having a clamshell would be that if your toilet seat breaks, you can rip off the lcd of the clamshell and hollow out a hole...BAM new toilet seat (comes in a color of your choice).
  9. Imixmuan macrumors 6502

    Dec 18, 2010
    Please see

    my post from today entitled: Frackin' impressive.

    Maybe we shouldn't be dissin' the G3's so much.
  10. cocacolakid macrumors 65816


    Dec 18, 2010
    I think you're confusing it with the "crapshell" :D
  11. Jessica Lares macrumors G3

    Jessica Lares

    Oct 31, 2009
    Near Dallas, Texas, USA
    The clamshell weighs as much as that 17".

    Get the latest G4 model of the 12" PowerBooks you can find and maybe remove the optical drive.
  12. Jethryn Freyman macrumors 68020

    Jethryn Freyman

    Aug 9, 2007
    What graphics card do you have specifically?

    I remember that my Power Mac 7220/200 could run Quake fine, but UT ran like a slug. Right now I've got a 350MHz iMac with 8MB GPU that I'm about to boot up with 10.4.11 for the first time, I shall let you know how it scores...
  13. G4TheWin macrumors member

    Dec 8, 2012
    A ditch somewhere
    The thing is, it'd probably survive. That thing's the original Game Boy of laptops.
  14. Paulywauly macrumors 6502a


    Sep 26, 2009
    Durham, UK
    If you're after portability don't let the clamshells 12 inch screen fool you. It's possibly the sturdiest laptop i've ever used, but also one of the biggest/heaviest
  15. crewkid89 macrumors regular


    Jun 16, 2011
    United States
    I had the mini. I'd prefer the PowerBook. Atom processor hackintosh is a pain. I also had a 12" PowerBook and absolutely loved it. Unfortunately I had the 1ghz version which just wasn't quite enough for what I wanted. If you can get the 1.5ghz version, you will be very happy with what it can do.
  16. rjcalifornia macrumors 6502a


    Oct 4, 2012
    El Salvador
    Go either PowerBook G4 or iBook G4. Keep in mind to get the 1.33Ghz model or above.
  17. seveej macrumors 6502a


    Dec 14, 2009
    Helsinki, Finland
    PB 12" or toilet seat (sorry, I meant clamshell)
    Get both. Put the clamshell in a glass cabinet and take a 12" on the road.

    BTW, below are the measurements and (hypothetical) cubic centimeters of five portable PPC Mac's (numbers courtesy of everymac)

    3.0 cm, 27.7 cm, 21.9 cm (1819,89 cm3 / 2,1 kgs)
    3.4 cm, 28.5 cm, 23.0 cm (2228,70 cm3 / 2,2 kgs)
    2.6 cm, 39.2 cm, 25.9 cm (2639,73 cm3 / 3,1 kgs)
    3.4 cm, 32.3 cm, 25.9 cm (2844,34 cm3 / 2,7 kgs)
    4.6 cm, 34.3 cm, 29.5 cm (4654,51 cm3 / 3,04 kgs)

    The first one is the 12 inch PowerBook, the second is a 12 inch iBook G4, the third is your current 17inch PowerBook, the fourth (slightly bulkier, but somewhat lighter is a 14 inch iBook and the last (surprise!) is the clamshell - almost as heavy as the 17" PB, but uses almost double the space in your bag.

    So do not expect a clamshell to be more portable than your 17" PB. It is not.

  18. sucramdi macrumors member

    Jan 17, 2011
    Actually the iBook would likely be unable to connect to WiFi at all, the b card won't connect to more modern networks, but the PowerBook's Airport Extreme card will.
  19. rjcalifornia macrumors 6502a


    Oct 4, 2012
    El Salvador
    I am connecting to a WiMax modem with my ibook with no issues.
  20. MisterKeeks macrumors 68000


    Nov 15, 2012
    It isn't so much an issue with the wireless networking framework so much as the type of security used. I can use a B iBook G3 with an N network just fine. However, if the iBook was running 10.2 or below, I wouldn't be able to connect, as those systems do not support WPA (Wi-Fi Protected Access). Most modern networks will just run at B speeds when a B networked computer is using the network, unless you have a dual band router.

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