Predicitve text: why isn't it more... predictive?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by zarusoba, Jan 24, 2010.

  1. zarusoba macrumors 6502

    Feb 3, 2006
    Just wondering why English predictive text on the iPhone OS isn't more helpful. I find that Japanese predictive text is much more so. This may be partly due to the phonetic nature of the Japanese language, but I don't see why English predictive text can't suggest a larger number of popular words.

    For example, if I type "excell", why doesn't predictive text suggest "excellent"?
  2. army91c macrumors 6502a

    Mar 9, 2009
  3. abijnk macrumors 68040


    Oct 15, 2007
    Los Angeles, CA
    It isn't billed as predictive text, it is auto-correction. It isn't there to complete words for you, it is there to correct words when you misspell them.
  4. VulchR macrumors 68020


    Jun 8, 2009
    Actually, I am very satisfied with the 'corrective' texting on the iPhone. In fact, I wish word processors on desktop and laptop computers were as good (namely, typing the correction for me rather than waiting for me to mouse around highlighting and clicking).
  5. ucfgrad93 macrumors P6


    Aug 17, 2007
    Correct. Predictive makes me think that it is trying to read my mind.

    I am satisfied with the corrective text on the iPhone as well. As for word processors, I'm happy enough that they point out my mistakes.
  6. t0mat0 macrumors 603


    Aug 29, 2006
    Because excelled is a word for a start. Maybe the user wanted excell and accidently put 2 l's down. Predicting a possible mistake in the word and offering predicted alternatives is a different area than predictive text.
    Doesn't stop an app having a predictive text engine. Maybe Apple didn't want to get embroiled with the companies involved with T9 etc.
    Is there much predictive text on smartphones with touch screens? at least with phones with physical buttons, they can assume the user has hit the right button, then predict words from those button presses.
  7. mantan macrumors 68000

    Nov 2, 2009
    Yep, predictive text (like T9) is a completely different animal.

    I liked T9 in the days before full keyboards. But the first virtual phone keyboard I had (Samsung Eternity), I found T9 to slow things down.

    Occasionally I'd like it on the iPhone for longer words/messages - but most of the time I don't miss it.

    The auto correct feature is great.
  8. thetexan macrumors 6502a

    May 11, 2009
    The Droid has a really great predictive text system that works well 95% of the time. It has its bad moments but overall works great. Under settings I can add custom words I use a lot to help with prediction that aren't in the dictionary, and it automatically adds my contacts and Facebook contacts (even the FB contacts I don't sync with the phone).

    Basically as you start typing right above the keyboard you start getting word choices. The more you type the more it narrows down. If I type "wh" I get which, when, what, who and I can click on one if that's what I want or keep typing. For short words I just type them out, but for long words its handy because I'll type three letters and just click on the word I want. It also helps when you're drunk.
  9. pintnight macrumors 6502

    May 31, 2008
    I hate predictive text, so I'm glad that the iPhone doesn't have that.
  10. Moe UK macrumors regular

    Apr 28, 2009
    I never could get my head round predictive texting, we have to support Blackberries at work and when setting them I have to turn them off as i find impossible to put in the email address for activation.

    I quite like the corrective text that the iphone uses, although at times it can annoy when typing fast.
  11. rorschach macrumors 68020


    Jul 27, 2003
    Actually my iPhone does "predict" words at times, before i've finished typing them and not to correct a misspelling. I know it's autocorrect not predictive typing, so I suppose it has to do with the way it "learned" from my typing. I don't know.

    I just tried typing "macrumors." When I got to m-a-c-r, the bubble popped up to suggest "macrumors"
  12. zarusoba thread starter macrumors 6502

    Feb 3, 2006
    Maybe you haven't seen Japanese text input on the iPhone OS, but it gives several options for words to choose from when you type a phoneme.

    If it worked the same in English, after typing "excel", it would offer me a range of options: "excellent, excelled" etc. which I would choose from with the space bar.

    The Japanese one also remembers your favourite words and common sentences become very easy to type.

    Anyway, maybe it's the fundamental difference between the two languages that makes such a system impractical in English.

    Actually, it's done quite a nice job with these last few paragraphs. Overall the nicest OS I've ever used anyway.
  13. bjb.butler macrumors 6502a


    Aug 18, 2008
    Southern California
    Android has both predictive text AND auto-correction...
  14. blancoBronco macrumors 6502a


    Jul 4, 2009
    South Tampa
    the iPhone does have predictive text. whenever i type "toge" it suggests "together". and that's just one example.

    and btw, we don't need you "bragging" about android on an apple-related website
  15. Megalobyte macrumors 6502a

    Dec 30, 2007
    Has anybody else noticed the predictive/corrective feature doesn't seem to work nearly as well in texting as for example, email? Maybe because people are known to often use slang for texting?
  16. -aggie- macrumors P6


    Jun 19, 2009
    Where bunnies are welcome.
    Whatever it's called, I wished they'd expand on it. My old dumb phone was better for typing text.
  17. MacBoobsPro macrumors 603


    Jan 10, 2006
    I think its great on the iPhone. If you make a mistake just keep typing and it corrects it for you. It also does a bit of predicting but only from words you have previously typed. Toge does infact bring up an offer of 'Together' (once together has been used in the past) thats when you hit space bar and it types 'together' without you having to type 'ther'.

    Once your used to it its great.

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