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iPhone XS Max Predict the iPhone 11 “Gate”
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I'm surprised that Displaygate hasn't been suggested yet!
There are 2 Pro models in each region but they both have the exact same modem. (The regular 11, being all LCD, only has 1 model) We know Apple is supposed to start using both Samsung and LG for OLED displays, will the 2 models be LG Display and Samsung display? If so, I suspect people will figure out early on whether the Samsung is better or LG and people will want the better display.
Hopefully that isn't the case and the LG display turns out fine.
The 11 Pro models is where the numbers kind of disappoint, but again they have improved since last year's XS models. Since last year's phones didn't result in a massive wave of complaints, I can't see antenna as being an issue this year. I'm not going to comment on whether there is much real world impact of the differences because I barely understand them myself.
There are 2 Pro models in each region but they both have the exact same modem. (The regular 11, being all LCD, only has 1 model) We know Apple is supposed to start using both Samsung and LG for OLED displays, will the 2 models be LG Display and Samsung display? If so, I suspect people will figure out early on whether the Samsung is better or LG and people will want the better display.
Hopefully that isn't the case and the LG display turns out fine.
After reading over those posts and most of his other ones involving the iPhone models, it sounds like the antennas have improved slightly since last year in all models. The performance on the regular 11's antenna is actually fine, as it can sometimes improve the signal like an antenna is intended to do. Anyone upgrading from a previous model to the 11 should not notice any problems.
The 11 Pro models is where the numbers kind of disappoint, but again they have improved since last year's XS models. Since last year's phones didn't result in a massive wave of complaints, I can't see antenna as being an issue this year. I'm not going to comment on whether there is much real world impact of the differences because I barely understand them myself.
I'll play along. I predict Green-Gate. I'm curious if the PVD green coating on the stainless steel will hold up. It should as I have the Gold XS Max, but I wonder though.
Half of these “gates” are Intentioally created by losers on reddit to start some sort of apple drama for clicks. People are starting to see right thought the bullcrud.
One thing happens to one person, they make a post about it and other chinme in and automcalitly its considered “gate” while it does not affect 99% of the millions who bought the same device. Get real, gates are eyerolls at this point
One thing happens to one person, they make a post about it and other chinme in and automcalitly its considered “gate” while it does not affect 99% of the millions who bought the same device. Get real, gates are eyerolls at this point
Agreed. I can see Apple being sued because of someone gets a hand or wrist injury due to the weight. They would be clearly negligent because they chose to make the phone out of heavy materials like stainless steel and glass. I can just hear the advertisements now. "Have you been injured while trying to hold up your iPhone. Are you now unable to work and require around the clock nursing care for basic needs. Has your wife or girlfriend left you because you were unable to please her. Call us and we'll get you the money you deserve for your pain and suffering!"
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I've never heard any complaints about the XR antenna. Just the XS Max. Is the regular iPhone 11 antenna superior to the Pro version?
Weighs.
Not weights.
Thanks.
40 quarters is a lot of weight in a human hand.
When I picked up the XR in the store on release day I laughed.
What a joke. Too heavy.
One of the most annoying things when it comes to these oled panels. When will it ever be fixed?
never probably unless microLED brings a breakthrough on that one. same with LED, its a lottery
I just hope it fulfills it’s primary function as a phone. My XS has had crappy cellular connectivity since new. Not going to upgrade unless new phones are proven to have reliable cellular connectivity.
[doublepost=1568640283][/doublepost]Display gate. It’s too yellow, dark spots, unevenness.
[doublepost=1568640283][/doublepost]Display gate. It’s too yellow, dark spots, unevenness.
According to the FCC documents linked via the tweets in that first page post, yes, the iPhone 11 antenna provides reception slightly superior to the Pro version. It's using the same antenna configuration as the iPhone XR. The XR and regular 11 use a 2x2 antenna configuration, whereas the iPhone XS introduced a 4x4 antenna configuration which can result in better performance when there's a good signal since you can receive data on up to 4 bands at the same time. The iPhone 11 Pro uses the 4x4 configuration. The problem is that the 4x4 configuration has less signal gain than the 2x2 version, so reception will usually be weaker on the Pro in the exact same place as the standard version. I don't know anything about antenna technology, but I assume that having the extra antennas gives them less room (surface area) in the phone for each one which is contributing to the worse signal gain. (To further that, everything I say here is just my understanding based on what I've read and could be incorrect.)
Anyone who buys the 11 will probably not notice any difference in reception compared to an older model given the numbers are somewhat comparable to the XR.
The good news from that twitter thread was that the 11 Pro has better numbers than last year. In some cases like the frequency used for Band 30 the 11 Pro actually has roughly the same results as the XR did, but it's usually slightly worse everywhere. Either way, fewer people should experience problems than did with the XS.
I have an iPhone X now. I ordered the 11 Pro before becoming aware of the antenna concerns so I'm personally going to give the 11 Pro a week to see how it handles where I live. I fluctuate between 1 and 2 bars at home and work so I'll be more likely to be impacted if it's worse than that. Good thing Apple has a 14 day return policy in case I can't handle the reception.
You mean like my XS Max? Also quoting the highest priced configuration that Apple sells in an iPhone might sound cool but I doubt many will get this.
It's not about trying to sound cool, it was just one of several large prices I saw on their website. Even £1149 sounds ridiculous to me.
