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Will the upgrade process be be similar to 3g upgrade last year for 3G to iPhone 2009?

  • ATT will make an exception for iphone launch. They wouldn'y alienate Apple fans.

    Votes: 33 45.8%
  • No, you already got a subsidized handset. You must purchase the 2009 iPhone at a higher price.

    Votes: 39 54.2%

  • Total voters
    72

KratosKilla

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Mar 29, 2008
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Do you believe Apple will discuss the upgade process from 3G to 2009 iPhone? Will they charge 3G users a fee? What are your predictions?
 
As noted in the approximately 1000 threads already about this: it's not up to Apple: it's up to your carrier. It may well be different in every single country.
 
yea

I thought that this would be an interesting topic to dicuss and vote on the eve of the keynote. I really hope for option A but I'd like to know the conscensus from the rest of the board.
 
Also, this leaves the question- if no subsidized price is available for 3G users, will the 3G users be able to actually buy the 2009 iPhone at a higher price, or will they do what they did last year, and not allow any purchase without signing a new contract.

In other words, will 3G users be able to buy the new iPhone at the higher price??

mark
 
Even if I own the original iphone, i still believe people with the 3g will be the folks with 3g will get it at the lower price, iphone folks make att a arm and a leg OF $$.

What will be interesting is if current 3g owners in a 2 year contract will be able to downgrade their data plan to the new $20 data plan with an assumed 250mb limit.

I know I'm defiantly going for the cheaper data plan, I only use 150mb of edge data a month, and I try to be on wi-fi as much as possible, & heck, if I need more data each month I can still upgrade to the unlimited data plan whenever I please.

Still mad that 200 text massages will not be included with it!
 
Even if I own the original iphone, i still believe people with the 3g will be the folks with 3g will get it at the lower price, iphone folks make att a arm and a leg OF $$.

What will be interesting is if current 3g owners in a 2 year contract will be able to downgrade their data plan to the new $20 data plan with an assumed 250mb limit.

I know I'm defiantly going for the cheaper data plan, I only use 150mb of edge data a month, and I try to be on wi-fi as much as possible, & heck, if I need more data each month I can still upgrade to the unlimited data plan whenever I please.

Still mad that 200 text massages will not be included with it!

Do you think this 3.5g rumor will cost more for the plan. If i stick at 30 a month will i keep my unlimited data.
 
Well, I tend to think that with the AT&T exclusivity to end in 2010, they might make an exception here to yield a positive response from Apple. In addition, it would put that many more customers under contract through 2011 in case they lose the exclusivity.

I know many say, "but the iPhone 3G is a subsidized phone and like any other phone, you have use it through the contract or pay more for an upgrade."

Here is a good article that really outlines why iPhone is not a normal phone to AT&T.

The company activated 1.6 million iPhones on its network in the quarter. And more than 640,000 of those customers were new to AT&T’s network. That represents three-quarters of the net addition of 875,000 new postpaid consumer accounts in the quarter. (AT&T added 325,000 more net business and prepaid wireless accounts in the quarter.)

IPhone customers, moreover, are particularly valuable, mainly because they also buy expensive data plans. Their average bill is $94 a month, 60 percent higher than the company’s overall customer base. Data represented 27 percent of AT&T’s $11.7 billion in wireless revenue in the quarter, up from 22 percent a year ago.

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Put another way, if the company gets 2.5 million new customers a year because of its iPhone exclusivity, the deal represents at least $700 million a year in operating profits — profits that it could lose if Verizon sold the iPhone, too.

My bet is that 3G customers will be able to upgrade to the new phone.
 
Well, I tend to think that with the AT&T exclusivity to end in 2010, they might make an exception here to yield a positive response from Apple. In addition, it would put that many more customers under contract through 2011 in case they lose the exclusivity.

I know many say, "but the iPhone 3G is a subsidized phone and like any other phone, you have use it through the contract or pay more for an upgrade."

Here is a good article that really outlines why iPhone is not a normal phone to AT&T.


My bet is that 3G customers will be able to upgrade to the new phone.


Makes sense. Do you think Schiller or whoever will talk about it at the keynote or do you think it will be a carrier by carrier press release?
 
As noted in the approximately 1000 threads already about this: it's not up to Apple: it's up to your carrier. It may well be different in every single country.

These major things are up to Apple. Just like everyone has access to a 3G network, or visual voicemail.
 
I think they will we are a somewhat special group!

Special, as in?
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I could care less if i get an exception or not. I just want to be eligible to just PAY for whatever the price is.
 
Makes sense. Do you think Schiller or whoever will talk about it at the keynote or do you think it will be a carrier by carrier press release?

i hope so. if not, i'll be on the phone with AT&T right after asking them upgrade policies... as will a lot more people on the forums.
 
Makes sense. Do you think Schiller or whoever will talk about it at the keynote or do you think it will be a carrier by carrier press release?

I could see them addressing the issue for U.S. customers since it is their biggest customer base. I would imagine that other carriers would release details at some point.
 
Well, I tend to think that with the AT&T exclusivity to end in 2010, they might make an exception here to yield a positive response from Apple. In addition, it would put that many more customers under contract through 2011 in case they lose the exclusivity.

I know many say, "but the iPhone 3G is a subsidized phone and like any other phone, you have use it through the contract or pay more for an upgrade."

Here is a good article that really outlines why iPhone is not a normal phone to AT&T.


Put another way, if the company gets 2.5 million new customers a year because of its iPhone exclusivity, the deal represents at least $700 million a year in operating profits — profits that it could lose if Verizon sold the iPhone, too.


My bet is that 3G customers will be able to upgrade to the new phone.


Now take that figure that AT&T makes in profit from iPhone subscribers and subtract the number of iPhone subscribers multiplied by the amount of money AT&T subsidizes for the iPhone.

profits - (iPhone subscribers * subsidy) = lost profits

If AT&T keeps paying for our phones they're negating quite a bit of that profit. iPhone 3G owners will get the next iPhone for more than a new customer or an upgrade eligible customer, but for less than a contract-free iPhone.
 
They will not address upgrade processes for AT&T tomorrow because that means they would have to go through all the carriers in the world and their different upgrade process. This is something that AT&T will come up with on their own after the keynote.
 
Now take that figure that AT&T makes in profit from iPhone subscribers and subtract the number of iPhone subscribers multiplied by the amount of money AT&T subsidizes for the iPhone.

profits - (iPhone subscribers * subsidy) = lost profits

If AT&T keeps paying for our phones they're negating quite a bit of that profit. iPhone 3G owners will get the next iPhone for more than a new customer or an upgrade eligible customer, but for less than a contract-free iPhone.

No argument here. I think they will make some concessions since exclusivity could end soon, but certainly the large subsidy they paid is something to consider from a business perspective.
 
Also, let's not forget not everybody who bought an iPhone 3G reads these forums. Many people have no idea they bought a "subsidized" phone, nor what the word "subsidized" means.

So when these people go to upgrade and find out they are gonna have to pay 600 bucks all hell will break loose. It's just not how Apple does things, therefore it won't be how AT&T does things.
 
Also, let's not forget not everybody who bought an iPhone 3G reads these forums. Many people have no idea that bough a "subsidized" phone, nor what the word "subsidized" means.

So when these people go to upgrade and find out they are gonna have to pay 600 bucks all hell will break loose. It's just not how Apple does things, therefore it won't be how AT&T does things.

You are correct. We only represent probably less than 1% of AT&T subscribers.
 
Charging extra may bring about bad PR for Apple. Apple wouldn't do it to their loyal fans. Who lined up on July 8-11 depending on how dedicated (Crazy) you are.
 
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