Do you believe Apple will discuss the upgade process from 3G to 2009 iPhone? Will they charge 3G users a fee? What are your predictions?
Even if I own the original iphone, i still believe people with the 3g will be the folks with 3g will get it at the lower price, iphone folks make att a arm and a leg OF $$.
What will be interesting is if current 3g owners in a 2 year contract will be able to downgrade their data plan to the new $20 data plan with an assumed 250mb limit.
I know I'm defiantly going for the cheaper data plan, I only use 150mb of edge data a month, and I try to be on wi-fi as much as possible, & heck, if I need more data each month I can still upgrade to the unlimited data plan whenever I please.
Still mad that 200 text massages will not be included with it!
The company activated 1.6 million iPhones on its network in the quarter. And more than 640,000 of those customers were new to AT&T’s network. That represents three-quarters of the net addition of 875,000 new postpaid consumer accounts in the quarter. (AT&T added 325,000 more net business and prepaid wireless accounts in the quarter.)
IPhone customers, moreover, are particularly valuable, mainly because they also buy expensive data plans. Their average bill is $94 a month, 60 percent higher than the company’s overall customer base. Data represented 27 percent of AT&T’s $11.7 billion in wireless revenue in the quarter, up from 22 percent a year ago.
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Put another way, if the company gets 2.5 million new customers a year because of its iPhone exclusivity, the deal represents at least $700 million a year in operating profits — profits that it could lose if Verizon sold the iPhone, too.
Well, I tend to think that with the AT&T exclusivity to end in 2010, they might make an exception here to yield a positive response from Apple. In addition, it would put that many more customers under contract through 2011 in case they lose the exclusivity.
I know many say, "but the iPhone 3G is a subsidized phone and like any other phone, you have use it through the contract or pay more for an upgrade."
Here is a good article that really outlines why iPhone is not a normal phone to AT&T.
My bet is that 3G customers will be able to upgrade to the new phone.
As noted in the approximately 1000 threads already about this: it's not up to Apple: it's up to your carrier. It may well be different in every single country.
I think they will we are a somewhat special group!
I'm really hoping AT&T decides to let 3G users upgrade early.
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Makes sense. Do you think Schiller or whoever will talk about it at the keynote or do you think it will be a carrier by carrier press release?
Makes sense. Do you think Schiller or whoever will talk about it at the keynote or do you think it will be a carrier by carrier press release?
Well, I tend to think that with the AT&T exclusivity to end in 2010, they might make an exception here to yield a positive response from Apple. In addition, it would put that many more customers under contract through 2011 in case they lose the exclusivity.
I know many say, "but the iPhone 3G is a subsidized phone and like any other phone, you have use it through the contract or pay more for an upgrade."
Here is a good article that really outlines why iPhone is not a normal phone to AT&T.
Put another way, if the company gets 2.5 million new customers a year because of its iPhone exclusivity, the deal represents at least $700 million a year in operating profits profits that it could lose if Verizon sold the iPhone, too.
My bet is that 3G customers will be able to upgrade to the new phone.
Now take that figure that AT&T makes in profit from iPhone subscribers and subtract the number of iPhone subscribers multiplied by the amount of money AT&T subsidizes for the iPhone.
profits - (iPhone subscribers * subsidy) = lost profits
If AT&T keeps paying for our phones they're negating quite a bit of that profit. iPhone 3G owners will get the next iPhone for more than a new customer or an upgrade eligible customer, but for less than a contract-free iPhone.
I could see them addressing the issue for U.S. customers since it is their biggest customer base. I would imagine that other carriers would release details at some point.
Also, let's not forget not everybody who bought an iPhone 3G reads these forums. Many people have no idea that bough a "subsidized" phone, nor what the word "subsidized" means.
So when these people go to upgrade and find out they are gonna have to pay 600 bucks all hell will break loose. It's just not how Apple does things, therefore it won't be how AT&T does things.