Presenting with iPad: a pain point

funnyboy88

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In the macOS vs iOS debate, I think we frequently overly simplify the tasks of users who are not designers, programmers, video editors, and say, "Oh, you just use documents, email, and web? Get an iPad!"

I'm a project manager who only deals with documents, email, and web, and one of the most painful experiences of trying to insert my iPad into the workplace is during meetings where I'm forced to connect up my device to the monitor so the group can take a look at a web page, document, design, etc. I'm not talking about a formal Keynote presentation here, but rather a, "Hey, can I see the last design Kelly did so we can talk about it?"

Now with my iPad hooked up, I can no longer take notes on my iPad or multitask and respond to a quick email as the whole room is now staring at my iPad screen. My coworkers with PC's and Mac's can hook up to the monitor and run the monitor as a 2nd display, while the iPad can only mirror.

In these situations, I just pull out my iPhone and use that to take notes on, glance at email, etc.

Just another subtle issue in the 'iPads as computers' debate :/
 

Booji

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In the macOS vs iOS debate, I think we frequently overly simplify the tasks of users who are not designers, programmers, video editors, and say, "Oh, you just use documents, email, and web? Get an iPad!"

I'm a project manager who only deals with documents, email, and web, and one of the most painful experiences of trying to insert my iPad into the workplace is during meetings where I'm forced to connect up my device to the monitor so the group can take a look at a web page, document, design, etc. I'm not talking about a formal Keynote presentation here, but rather a, "Hey, can I see the last design Kelly did so we can talk about it?"

Now with my iPad hooked up, I can no longer take notes on my iPad or multitask and respond to a quick email as the whole room is now staring at my iPad screen. My coworkers with PC's and Mac's can hook up to the monitor and run the monitor as a 2nd display, while the iPad can only mirror.

In these situations, I just pull out my iPhone and use that to take notes on, glance at email, etc.

Just another subtle issue in the 'iPads as computers' debate :/
I have thought of that problem...but I have a Chromecast and was thinkin of trying this:

Video & TV Cast for Chromecast: Best Browser to cast and stream webvideos and local videos on TV & Displays by 2kit consulting
https://appsto.re/us/LHEf2.i
 

Cashmonee

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I know this doesn't help in your situation, but I this is why I use GoodNotes for presenting to my classes. It has a feature that allows you to "Hide Interface" so that the toolbar at the top is not seen on the TV. This has two positive outcomes. One, the aspect ratio is now that of the TV, so I can fill the screen. Two, it allows me to multitask and the other apps do not show up on the TV. It works great! So, maybe see if any apps you use have a similar feature.
 

canesalato

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In the macOS vs iOS debate, I think we frequently overly simplify the tasks of users who are not designers, programmers, video editors, and say, "Oh, you just use documents, email, and web? Get an iPad!"

I'm a project manager who only deals with documents, email, and web, and one of the most painful experiences of trying to insert my iPad into the workplace is during meetings where I'm forced to connect up my device to the monitor so the group can take a look at a web page, document, design, etc. I'm not talking about a formal Keynote presentation here, but rather a, "Hey, can I see the last design Kelly did so we can talk about it?"

Now with my iPad hooked up, I can no longer take notes on my iPad or multitask and respond to a quick email as the whole room is now staring at my iPad screen. My coworkers with PC's and Mac's can hook up to the monitor and run the monitor as a 2nd display, while the iPad can only mirror.

In these situations, I just pull out my iPhone and use that to take notes on, glance at email, etc.

Just another subtle issue in the 'iPads as computers' debate :/
yes..it seems like a basic feature but progress has been slow and this feature would probably require trackpad support
 

subjonas

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Just curious, you said you hook up your iPad to a monitor? How do you do this?

If you have an Apple TV at work, as a workaround, you could save or screenshot the images you want to present in a photos album, start a slideshow, and airplay it to the Apple TV. And because it's in the photos app you should have the ability to split screen it. You should also be able to control the slides. I haven't tested this but it should work.

It would be more ideal if the app you're using supported airplay presentation and split screen on its own.
 

Jasmynp

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What about the downloadable teaching tool. Is it called iTunes U? Check out the podcast Canvas. It’s all about iPad productivity. I’m sure you could send them an email and they’d have a solution.
 

Abazigal

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In the macOS vs iOS debate, I think we frequently overly simplify the tasks of users who are not designers, programmers, video editors, and say, "Oh, you just use documents, email, and web? Get an iPad!"

I'm a project manager who only deals with documents, email, and web, and one of the most painful experiences of trying to insert my iPad into the workplace is during meetings where I'm forced to connect up my device to the monitor so the group can take a look at a web page, document, design, etc. I'm not talking about a formal Keynote presentation here, but rather a, "Hey, can I see the last design Kelly did so we can talk about it?"

Now with my iPad hooked up, I can no longer take notes on my iPad or multitask and respond to a quick email as the whole room is now staring at my iPad screen. My coworkers with PC's and Mac's can hook up to the monitor and run the monitor as a 2nd display, while the iPad can only mirror.

In these situations, I just pull out my iPhone and use that to take notes on, glance at email, etc.

Just another subtle issue in the 'iPads as computers' debate :/
There is an option to run powerpoint or keynote in split screen mode and have it present to the projector in fullscreen. I recall having done this before. Keynote ran in the 1/3 side of the screen, while notability ran as the main app. I was able to use Notability without it showing on the projector.
 

Precision Gem

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I would think that if you were doing a presentation, why would you also be responding to an email? When I do presentations, the presentation is my focus not some random email or text message.
 
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subjonas

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If you're talking about a true extended desktop in which you could navigate around, switch apps, etc, I don't know how that would work with iOS since there is no pointing device. At best, Apple might make it so that you can mirror only half your screen when you're in split view.
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I would think that if you were doing a presentation, why would you also be responding to an email? When I do presentations, the presentation is my focus not some random email or text message.
Not really helpful.
 
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pika2000

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In that specific usage scenario, yes, a traditional laptop fits the job better.
And funny thing a Mac handles the multi-screen thing much better than Windows, at least in the event I had to present. Many Windows colleagues had issues in configuring the second screen, etc, while my Mac was just plug-n-play.

I don't think Apple said you must present with an iPad. They just said you could if you wanted to (and with limitations). It's just another tool. It's up to the user to decide which tool fits his/her needs.
 
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