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Ten One Design, the makers of capacitive styluses such as the Pogo Sketch, have released a demo video showing pressure sensitive drawing on the iPad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgTcyjzXfTg

The demo uses a standard Pogo Sketch stylus and pulls additional data from the iPad's touch screen to simulate pressure differences by measuring area of contact between the stylus and the iPad itself. They also incorporated palm rejection algorithms from their Inklet product to prevent detection of extraneous touches from your palm.

Unfortunately, they utilize private frameworks to access the data. Typically, Apple does not allow App Store apps to take advantage of private frameworks as they may change over time. Ten One Design is hopeful that the public UIKit framework could be updated to allow access to the additional data. If that happens, they plan on releasing their code as a free software library so it can be included in any App Store app.

Article Link: Pressure Sensitive Sketching on iPad Demoed
 

kevingaffney

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Great, one more plus point for me getting an iPad as I'm in the graphics business. All Apple have to do now is release them to the rest of Europe
 

ZaxCG2

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Cool, but it has a very noticeable lag.
I remember seeing the same type of pen being used for the Macbook multitouch trackpad... forgot what it's called. (anybody know what I'm talking about?)
 

Lesser Evets

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What is the frame around the iPad? Is that anything special or just their frame for fun-n-design? I am assuming the iPad works with just the stylus.

This is what the iPad should have had built into it already, but I'm very glad we are going to have it developed and in use very soon. Assuming Apple doesn't cut them out.
 

nkawtg72

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call me crazy, but wouldn't a wired/wireless stylus, that has a pressure sensitive nib that reports that info to the software directly be even more accurate and efficient?!

i do understand the cost savings hardware wise with this method though.
pretty cool, make it happen!!!
 

MikhailT

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It would be nice if Apple introduce this cool set of features but it's probably not going to happen till iOS5.


Cool, but it has a very noticeable lag.
I remember seeing the same type of pen being used for the Macbook multitouch trackpad... forgot what it's called. (anybody know what I'm talking about?)

It's the same company, the pen is called Pogo Stylus and the software is Inklet.
 

tgildred

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call me crazy, but wouldn't a wired/wireless stylus, that has a pressure sensitive nib that reports that info to the software directly be even more accurate and efficient?!

i do understand the cost savings hardware wise with this method though.
pretty cool, make it happen!!!

I sincerely hope that Wacom is doing just that... somehow.
 

Brien

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I've tried using a Pogo on an iPad before. While this looks a bit nicer, I have to say that looks pretty terrible compared to a Cintiq. No thanks.

Maybe if Apple releases a more Pro oriented iPad with proper drawing/note taking capabilities, I'd consider it.
 

menomano

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way too laggy and I agree a pressure sensitive stylus would make more sense provided the lag would be eliminated if not then the iPad needs a faster processor.
 

JAQ

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This would go some distance toward making the iPad useful as a drawing tool, but it's still not going to give the same level of control that a Wacom-type firm-tip, pressure-sensitive stylus would provide. There would be only two ways to implement that: 1) communicating the pressure data to the app via bluetooth or a dock connection, or 2) putting a sensing grid inside directly behind the screen.

Option 2 would require Apple to do it, and since they have no interest in supporting styluses, this isn't going to happen. Stop wishing.

Option 1 would require either batteries in the pen to power wireless communication (which would make it bulky, and require recharging), or connecting it via the dock with a cable (which would be awkward). This, by the way, is how it used to be done before Wacom took over the industry with their superior tech.

Personally, I'm going to stick to using my old second-hand TabletPC for drawing. Artists with bigger budgets can opt for a ModBook or a Cintiq.
 

aibo82

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Wait until Wacom jump on this idea then it will be perfect! but it may never come as they have a product that does this already for pros!
 

Wurm5150

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Using a stylus with an iPad? Surely SJ would not approve :D

Apple Stores are selling those Pogo stylus just so you know... They're not against stylus, they're just not promoting it for normal use. I have a Pogo stylus (which I bought from the Apple Store) for my iPad but I only use for sketching and illustration...
 

munkees

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This needs to come out before September... Two math classes...

the stylus is already out.


Apple Stores are selling those Pogo stylus just so you know... They're not against stylus, they're just not promoting it for normal use. I have a Pogo stylus (which I bought from the Apple Store) for my iPad but I only use for sketching and illustration...

you have to ask for it, they don't keep them out on display, that is how I got mine.
 
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