Price Difference ipad2 UK - US

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  1. shavermcspud macrumors member

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    Why is it in the UK the same 16GB wifi only ipad 2 is £100 more expensive than in the US?

    Its $499 = £302 UK Pounds US apple store

    Its £399 = $654 USD in the UK apple store

    WTF

    Please don't say import tax and VAT surely these should be priced the same across the board no, i know the exchange rate is fairly crap on the $ but that's a shed load different
     
  2. yetanotherdave macrumors 68000

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    Well it is VAT and import duty I'm afraid. Add 20% to £302 and you get £362, another £35 covers import duties, and the fact that apple UK have to pay more to operate here, things like employee benefits, NIC's etc.
     
  3. iStudentUK macrumors 65816

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    US prices are shown without tax. US doesn't have uniform VAT. Instead, sales tax is added at the end. It ranges between around 0-10%. I'd guess 4% is about average.

    $499 = £305

    £399 = £332.50 without VAT.

    The UK pays less than £30 more. No unreasonable.

    Plus, we have other consumer advantages that make up for the difference in my opinion.
     
  4. OllyW Moderator

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    There's no sales tax on the US prices, it's added at the point of sale.

    Mind you, their sales taxes are a lot lower than ours.
     
  5. shavermcspud, Apr 20, 2011
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    Ah i forgot about the sales tax at the end in the us.

    Vat and import tax thieving UK bastards ;)

    UPDATE

    I just went all the way through completing checkout on the US apple store site via my VPN connection right to the point of entering my card details and at no point was any tax added only $5 for shipping.
    I entered my friends CA address which i believe is how tax is normally calculated but never showed anything

    try it yourself! or am i really missing something here?
     
  6. rovex, Apr 20, 2011
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    It's an even bigger joke for those who have Euros as their currency. Food and electronics are more expensive relative to in the UK with the pound. A PS3 game in France was selling for a ridiculous 70 euros, that's around £60! And £20 pounds more than I can find the same game in the UK in most retailers. Thing is, this isn't just limited to that particular store, almost the entirety of them are charging the same.

    You also have to bear in mind that the average income in the UK is higher than many other western european countries. Living In the UK doesn't seem soo bad!
     
  7. fivenotrump macrumors 6502

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    This last point is often overlooked...
     
  8. MattZani macrumors 68030

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  9. iStudentUK macrumors 65816

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    Technically if Apple found out they could stop the order. But lots of people do it.

    Buying from the US has big downsides- you have very few consumer rights in UK law. So you should purchase AppleCare or there is nothing you can really do if there is a fault.
     
  10. smiddlehurst macrumors 65816

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    Could we maybe sticky this for the next time someone rants on about uk / us prices and forgets UK prices include sales tax and the US doesn't, usually while going on a tear about Apple ripping off the UK Market?
     
  11. mcdj macrumors G3

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  12. XXFirefighter macrumors regular

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    And some plans with Apple don't pay shipping or tax like my iPad 2.

    IPAD WI-FI 3G 32GB BLACK-USA $729.00
    IPAD SMART COVER RED-US $69.00



    SubTotal: $798.00
    Tax: $0.00
    Shipping Charge: $0.00
    Total: $798.00
     
  13. OlgaJ macrumors 6502

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    What's the warranty in the UK? I think you have mandatory warranties that exceed those that we get in the US.
     
  14. iStudentUK macrumors 65816

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    Apple's warranty is one year. This is in addition to the law that says all products must be of satisfactory quality and last a reasonable length of time. I'd say 2 years for an iPad reasonable? Takes a bit of persistence, but I have learned not to bother with extended warranties.
     
  15. ct2k7 macrumors 603

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    A lot of Apple products have international warranty.
     
  16. iStudentUK macrumors 65816

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    What I'm saying is you really have to have an Apple extended warranty if you buy outside the UK in case something goes wrong after 1 year. If you buy in the UK you don't necessarily need an extended warranty as the law can help you out after Apple's one year warranty is up.
     
  17. sochet macrumors regular

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    You know you'll have to pay import duty, VAT and a handling fee if you buy it from the US store right?
     
  18. ct2k7 macrumors 603

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    Thank you for the clarification.
     
  19. rovex macrumors 65816

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    Why would that be? As they are shipped direct from china and sent all over the globe?
     
  20. XXFirefighter macrumors regular

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    It's how "the man" is ensured it's taxes.
    The best way for someone int he UK to buy a USA ipad is private party.
     
  21. MattZani macrumors 68030

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    Yes, and Apple pay the tax (unsure if they pay it at point of entering country or point of sale)
     
  22. thibaulthalpern macrumors regular

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    Yes, you are missing something. You are probably using the Apple Store UK site. Try this: store.apple.com/us

    In that site (which is the one that defaults for me because I live in the USA), you don't even need to put in your credit card to get estimated tax. Just add the item to your shopping card and as you go through checkout process but before entering billing information, it will ask you for your Zip code and once you input it, it will estimate the tax for you.

    Depending on where you live, you don't only get State taxes but you will get County tax and even City tax. For example, if you enter the zip code 95060 you will get a difference tax calculated than if you entered 95064 even though both are zip codes in the city of Santa Cruz.
     
  23. Charadis macrumors 6502a

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    If ordering through Apple, or other vendor online, as long as that vendor has a physical location or nexus within the state the order is placed, then tax is collected. Sales tax can also be avoided by ordering online where the vendor does not have a physical presence within the state the order is placed.

    Source:
    http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-ar..._tax_on_the_internet_who_pays_it_who_doesnt-i

    -C


    Sent from my iPad
     
  24. ct2k7 macrumors 603

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    You can still register to collect VAT if you don't have any assets in the EU/ or UK, though this is not mandatory.
     

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