Price of 1TB Fusion Drive

Discussion in 'iMac' started by beerglass007, Oct 23, 2012.

  1. beerglass007 macrumors 6502

    May 13, 2008
    Just looked on the mac mini BTO site and the option for a 1TB Fusion Drive is £200

    I hope this isnt the same price for an iMac

    If so you get a crappy 5400 RPM or pay £200 for something a little more useful
  2. Joined:
    Sep 10, 2012
    Nice investigative work, buddy ;)

    I'd like to think that the iMac version was 7200, though ...
  3. beerglass007 thread starter macrumors 6502

    May 13, 2008
    Only the 27" gets the 7200 HDD

    The 21" gets 5400RPM as standard
  4. MoreAwesomeDanU macrumors regular


    Dec 4, 2010
    the fact is, hundreds of millions who are going to buy the 21" won't have a clue or care about what 5400RPM even means.
  5. beerglass007 thread starter macrumors 6502

    May 13, 2008
    I do
  6. fruitpunch.ben macrumors 6502a


    Sep 16, 2008
    Surrey, BC
    While I agree with your main point, you can't talk about hundreds of millions of people when speaking of iMac sales. Apple sells <5 million macs per quarter, and less than half are desktops, so we're talking <10 million sold until they next update the iMac line
  7. dndlnx macrumors 6502


    Dec 9, 2010
    That's at least 2/3 of the US population buying the 21" model, alone. Depending what is meant by "hundreds". :p
  8. boy-better-know macrumors 65816

    Jun 30, 2010
    £200 extra for a 128GB SSD with intelligent software that can tell which apps you use the most and assign them to the SSD along with a 1TB 7200rpm HDD?

    Sounds ace to me.
  9. AnalyzeThis, Oct 23, 2012
    Last edited: Oct 23, 2012

    AnalyzeThis macrumors 6502

    Sep 8, 2007
    Wow! Intelligent drive! A miracle of engineering!
    Hm, You can have your fusion drive by installing OSX on SSD and mounting HDD volume/partition under root "/Users" directory as mount point.
    A miracle of engineering! Intelligent drive! Wow!

    For real Apple??? Really eclipsing Apple history of innovation with this one... Be very, very proud/full of yourselves!
  10. Cory Bauer macrumors 6502a

    Jun 26, 2003
    Fusion Drive should have been standard, without question. 128GB SSD costs $99 retail these days, and Apple raised the price of the iMacs by $99 while reducing their own costs (optical drive and shipping rates given the far lighter design). Plus, making Fusion Drives a BTO option means we'll have to go thru Apple to get it, requiring that we pay full retail price on the Mac plus tax.

    Anyone think OWC will be able to offer the SSD portion of the Fusion Drive for after-market upgrading?
  11. kfscoll macrumors 65816


    Nov 3, 2009
    That's not even close to the same thing as what the Fusion drive is doing. The Fusion drive will dynamically move data to and from the SSD portion of the drive depending on use. In other words, applications could potentially be moved by the OS to the HDD if they're infrequently used, and data could be moved to the SSD if it's accessed frequently. In the scenario you describe (which is how my iMac is currently set up), user data always remains on the HDD, and apps always stay on the SSD, regardless of use case.

    In other words, the Fusion drive dynamically optimizes disk storage based on individual use cases, whereas the configuration you describe doesn't.
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    Sep 10, 2012
    ... agreed.
  13. TallManNY macrumors 601


    Nov 5, 2007
    Fusion drive is worth the extra money. You may not like paying it, but adding ssd functionality for $300 and getting additional storage space is worth it for a computer you should expect to use for four years, at least.

    So put it in the budget right now.
  14. MoreAwesomeDanU macrumors regular


    Dec 4, 2010
    A extra 128g SSD for $250? I can pick one up today for 80$ off amazon
  15. drambuie macrumors 6502a

    Feb 16, 2010
    I think the speed difference between the new 21" and 27" iMac HDDs is because the 21" uses a 2.5" laptop drive, and the 27" uses a 3.5" desktop drive, hence its 7200 RPM speed, and up to 3TB availability.
  16. WordMasterRice macrumors 6502a

    Aug 3, 2010
    Upstate NY
    You talk about it like hybrid hard drives haven't been around for years doing exactly that. Nothing about this hybrid drive is novel.
  17. bmunge macrumors 6502

    Mar 7, 2012
    The drive does none of that. Mountain Lion is managing that through software that will exist on your machine regardless of whether or not you have a fusion drive. Apple is just doing what they always do and that is milk every last buck out of hardware extras.
  18. TallManNY macrumors 601


    Nov 5, 2007
    Yes, so that is a lower price. The question is what do you do when you order your new iMac. Do you just shrug your shoulders and live without an SSD drive until your next computer? Do you buy the base model and then install that Amazon drive yourself or pay someone to do it? Or do you drop the extra $250? I know if I were buying right now I'd drop the 250. But guys with more tech skills might go the self install route. If a blue print from I fixit even suggests that is possible.
  19. nuckinfutz macrumors 603


    Jul 3, 2002
    Middle Earth

    Seagates drive only offers a 4 or 8GB of SLC NAND and only recently started caching writes

    Intel's SRT is capped at 64GB

    We don't know enough about Apple's approach to know what is or isn't novel about it.

    I like the idea of having 128GB of NAND and potentially more.
  20. jaw04005, Oct 23, 2012
    Last edited: Oct 23, 2012

    jaw04005 macrumors 601


    Aug 19, 2003
    The price. :D

    I'm more disappointed about the lack of 256GB SSD option though on the 27. It's an additional $1300 for the 768GB upgrade on the low-end MacBook Pro. They haven't released pricing yet on the iMac. However, a SSD-only setup is going to be expensive.

    It's absolutely ridiculous to not offer the much cheaper 256GB as an option.
  21. cgdrennan macrumors newbie

    Sep 24, 2012
    I just want the 21.5" base with some kind of SSD capabilities! the fusion should come standard! I guess im one of the few that doesn't want to pay 1300 to have a slow laptop HDD. The real question is will it be user upgradable?? when do you think iFixit will get a chance to break it apart?
  22. george-brooks macrumors 6502a


    Oct 31, 2011
    Brooklyn, NY
    while your estimate is off by some millions, I am pretty sure Apple is well aware of this and does it to increase their profit margins at the expense of the naïve consumer.
  23. lucasfunkt macrumors 6502

    Jun 11, 2012
    £200? Where did you get that figure from?

    Sounds like a lot just for 128GB.

    So when they say 1TB fusion drive on their website they actually mean 1.128TB don't they?
  24. mr.thing macrumors member

    Aug 14, 2010
    Nothing "ace" to me. They are just using the functionality of intel chipset that was available since z68 chipset was introduced. Intel SRT. What is interesting is how did they bypassed the 64gb limmitation of that technology. Could be a custom chipset.
  25. theSeb macrumors 604


    Aug 10, 2010
    Poole, England
    Does it? £150 gets you a nice and fast 256 GB ssd so I don't think this is a good deal, but paying more for options is the norm, not just for apple.

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