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Pro Tools + Mac Pro Major Problem! Totally need help.

Forced Perfect

Forced Perfect

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Toronto, Canada.
Okay, I'm a total Mac guy, but audio stuff is a bit beyond me.

Now my uncle has upgraded to a Mac Pro (8x 2.8 GHz, 4 GB RAM, etc).

Randomly he would get an error when using Pro Tools. There are a couple of them that seem to be randomly chosen. This is one of them:

Code: 
The operating system held off interrupts for too long. If this occurs frequently,
try increasing the "H/W Buffer Size" in the Playback Engine Panel.
(-6086)

Obviously speed is not the issue.

I thought tracked it down to Guitar Rig 3 which does not support working as a plug-in with Pro Tools and Leopard.

Removed the plug and it came back.

We did a total wipe and with a fresh install Pro Tools was working perfectly with Reason and it happened again. No GR3 installed.

Yes I have patched to the newest versions. Pro Tools 7.4.2 and Reason 4.0.1 (if I recall).

Both Reason and Pro Tools are supposedly fully supported under Leopard (up to and including 10.5.4).

Does anyone have any idea why this is happening?

Mac Pro 8x 2.8 GHz
Leopard 10.5.4 (we did the same testing under 10.5.2 and 10.5.3)
Pro Tools 7.4.2
Reason 4.0.1
Digirack 002 via FireWire

We did install another plug-in (forgot the name), I have him testing it out without that plug-in installed just in case that's the cause as we did it last minute and didn't test with it. But it's a minor one.

PS I can get any more detail you need such as the exact error code, etc. I've Googled like crazy and it looks like I'm going to need help.
 
zimv20 said:
did you try increasing the "H/W Buffer Size" in the Playback Engine Panel?
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Yes. Probably should have mentioned that. We've tried going down to 32 and up to 1024. No change at all.

We've emailed Propellerheads (Reason) and they blame Digidesign (Pro Tools) for the problem. Even the largest music shop in the city, their tech support guy is at a loss. Although he did mention the patch (7.4.2) has only been out for a few weeks now.
 
should i infer that you've got PT and Reason hooked up via rewire? if so, can you achieve PT stability w/o using rewire or having reason running?
 
zimv20 said:
should i infer that you've got PT and Reason hooked up via rewire? if so, can you achieve PT stability w/o using rewire or having reason running?
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That's correct. Standalone they both seem to function. It's only when using Reason via ReWire does it occur.

They'll both be working normally (via ReWire) and seemingly at random it will lock up for a moment and come up with the error. After the first one it usually doesn't stop until you stop playback or recording or quit the program.
 
Protools 7.4.3 isn't rated for 10.5.4 it's supposed to be used with 10.5.3, not sure if this would cause your problem.

ReWire has been known to cause problems, as already noted.

There is a comprehensive error message list and support forum at Digidesign's own help forums here: http://duc.digidesign.com/
 
WinterMute said:
Protools 7.4.3 isn't rated for 10.5.4 it's supposed to be used with 10.5.3, not sure if this would cause your problem.

ReWire has been known to cause problems, as already noted.

There is a comprehensive error message list and support forum at Digidesign's own help forums here: http://duc.digidesign.com/
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http://www.digidesign.com/index.cfm?navid=54&langid=100&itemid=32909

Pro Tools 7.4.2 software requires Mac OS X 10.5.3 or 10.5.4. If you have an earlier version of Leopard, you will need to update your Mac OS before installing Pro Tools 7.4.2.
 
Chairman Plow said:
What are your audio settings in Reason? (Bit rate, etc.)
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I had him send me some screen shots. Is this everything or is he missing an important panel?
 

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WinterMute said:
That's new then, when I updated on the release day it was definitely 10.5.3 only. They've tested 10.5.4 additionally since I updated.

Any luck in the forums there?
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My uncle seems to have solved it by going after something I never suspected.

In addition to Reason, he also has a couple refills. After removing the .rfl files the errors stopped. I had him make a 5-6 track song with audio and MIDI and have that loop. After an hour no errors.

Reinstalling the .rfl caused the error in seconds of hitting play.

I suggested he forward all his findings to Propellerheads Software.
 
Forced Perfect said:
I had him send me some screen shots. Is this everything or is he missing an important panel?
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I was looking for the Audio panel, but it looks like the problem was found.
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Forced Perfect said:
My uncle seems to have solved it by going after something I never suspected.

In addition to Reason, he also has a couple refills. After removing the .rfl files the errors stopped. I had him make a 5-6 track song with audio and MIDI and have that loop. After an hour no errors.

Reinstalling the .rfl caused the error in seconds of hitting play.

I suggested he forward all his findings to Propellerheads Software.
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Ah, a bad refill. I didn't even think about that. Glad the issue was resolved. :cool:
 
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