Pro Users Don't WANT an All-In-One

Discussion in 'iMac' started by aaronhead14, Jun 5, 2017.

  1. aaronhead14 Suspended

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    Apple, Pro users don't want an all-in-one! We want a desktop tower that we can add components to! We want the 2012 Mac Pro, but with new hardware!
     
  2. jbyun04 macrumors 6502a

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    They've already said it's coming.. just not this year. Chill.
     
  3. Appleaker macrumors 68000

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    And you're probably going to get that in the new Mac Pro, but I think the iMac Pro is really cool. Although I agree, it would have been more suitable to have it as a enthusiast iMac, maybe using the i9 processors and obviously no ECC memory. That would have also lowered the price slightly.
     
  4. sfwalter macrumors 68000

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    Pro Users have practically had an all-in-one for last 3 years. I think this a good step until true new *modular* Mac Pro arrives.
     
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    Who would invest in all-in one workstation if you cannot use the display anymore after the time?
    Very disappointing, and it's not even cheap. With 5k screen, perhaps, but then I'm throwing away 5k screen anyway.
     
  7. meme1255 macrumors 6502

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    Jinnyman: You can use iMac as standalone display.
     
  8. jinnyman macrumors member

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    Current 5k cannot. Since iMac Pro now support USB-C with TB3, it better be.
     
  9. meme1255 macrumors 6502

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    The reason why the current (i.e. previous) generation couldn't do that was that the display was connected using special I/O as there wasn't interface capable of driving this display (except MST DP, which I think was used).
     
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    US $5000.00 for an iMac Pro. Lol..Wow. I'll have to sell my house.

    Of course that means.....the new Mac Pro workstation next year is going to be even MORE expensive than that !!!
     
  11. violst macrumors 6502

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    I don't know what kind of games apple is trying to play. If enough people start buying iMac Pros will that signal the end of the Mac Pro. Apple is fishing, I think they want a good reason to kill the Mac Pro.
     
  12. handsome pete macrumors 68000

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    Doubtful, since you're losing the cost of the display. I'd imagine the next Mac Pro iteration to have a similar entry price that the cylinder had.
     
  13. sevoneone macrumors 6502

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    Man, I have no words for Apple on this other than this thing needs to be iMac in name only. Why did pro users hate the TrashCan™? It wasn't upgradable/expandable and was thermally limited.... An iMac is (typically) not upgradable save for RAM and way more thermally limited than the nMP. If they stick to the existing iMac concept, Apple is essentially taking the same concept as the nMP and attaching a 5k display. A professional making a $5k+ investment in their business should be expecting to be able to extend the use of a machine like this for many years. If it is just an ordinary iMac with pro parts glued inside, this will sell to braggadocious consumers that think they need this to edit their family videos and photos.
     
  14. dlewis23 macrumors 6502a

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    I'm a pro user and while it might shock you. I love having an all-in-one! It's keeps my office nice and clean. Not all pro tasks require the ability to add components into there computer.
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    Not really, because it won't have the 5k display.
     
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    Are you guys moaning already!!!! they said the Mac Pro was coming.
    This I thought was a decent device and gives you a heads up to the sort of computing power the mac pro guys can hopefully get.

    I can't see anything negative about this at all.
     
  16. Shivetya macrumors 65816

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    5K to get a dark gray case. whoa.

    seriously an iMac Pro is nice but not 5k nice. Granted I haven't priced a loaded new iMac out but 5k is a real stretch. I haven't seen prices like than since 386 days
     
  17. Hankster macrumors 68020

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    I used to dislike all-in-one computers. But, last year I purchased a MSI all in one and it's great. I can take it home, to my weekend house, etc very easily. I toss the mouse, battery and keyboard into a tote bag and just carry the monitor with me. The specs are high so I can run every game or program on max settings.

    Love the convenience of it.
     
  18. astrocramp macrumors member

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    Best part about this announcement is built in 10Gbps network. Apple pulled everybody kicking and screaming to 1Gbps Ethernet, maybe the same will finally happen with 10Gbps Ethernet. Granted, the iMac Pro is a niche luxury machine, but hopefully PC competitors will start building in those chipsets to get parity with Apple.
     
  19. yoink macrumors member

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    I'm not sure I care about the all-in-one anymore either.

    My previous cheese graters were all about $4K each, 4-core in '06 and then 6-core in '10 - neither one came with a particularly decent graphics card and certainly no display. Each 24" high-end IPS 1920x1200 display was over $1000.

    So my cheese grater with a single display puts me around $5K. This is loose and anecdotal but Apple's in the ballpark and they're not wrong going-feature for feature with a z-series they hinted at. They're not cheap.

    Also, having built two 6-core X99 hack pros, they're not wonderful inexpensive either and certainly just enough trouble that I'd love an easy way out - plus I'd like to relegate the cheese grater to file-server duties.

    While I certainly wish we had a super cheese grater back in the fold, this is a reasonably decent quick fix - and seemingly well thought out. 4x TB3? Great. I don't even have to waste one on an external 10G over copper adapter - which would have been the first thing I'd do anyway.

    External graphics are maturing and that's been the number-one upgrade over the years. 5770 -> Quadro 4000 -> GTX680 -> Help me Jeebus I needz the 1080Ti now. All that to say, by the time I need/want an upgrade, there will be a path - I just hope they free up the silly EFI roms.

    Finally, amongst the many other Apple machines at our small office the mid-2011 iMac stands out - that machine was maxed out on purchase, 16GB ram, 256GB SSD, biggest graphics we could get - it's still going strong - albeit as a backup editing/developer machine - but it works really well - that's a 6 year old computer.
     
  20. Inutopia macrumors 6502

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    Some do, and that's something you're going to have to accept.
     
  21. BarracksSi Suspended

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    Cut him some slack, he's only been a MR member since... uh... 2009... (?)

    ;)

    (I wandered over here wondering if someone would complain about the iMac Pro, and I wasn't disappointed)

    Sheesh, guys. It was big enough news that Schiller, Cook, and Federighi (sp??) sat down with the tech press to tell the world that the cylindrical Mac Pro was on its last legs and say that a new standalone was in the works already.
     
  22. redheeler macrumors 603

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    The iMac Pro will be Apple's replacement for the trash can Mac Pro, only better because it has a 5K display built-in and takes up even less desk space.

    We have been told that a modular standalone Mac Pro is being developed, but that won't arrive until 2018.

    So this is clearly only half of Apple's long-term plan for professional-class desktops.
     
  23. chukronos macrumors 6502

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    I think it seems like a pretty slick beast. I wonder how much it will cost with 18 cores.
     
  24. sevoneone macrumors 6502

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    You know, I take back part of my original statement. While I do think your average freelance and small to medium shop will really want a modular/expandable computer, there is a sizable market for the iMac Pro and it really is a smart move by Apple. Larger companies, schools and universities typically buy workstations in bulk, put them in a lab and run them through a 3 or 5 year lifecycle. They never get hardware upgrades and are replaced and sold off as surplus at the end of their cycle. The iMac Pro makes a ton of sense for those environments, dual boot windows and you've got a complete do-everything workstation setup in a box.
     
  25. chfilm macrumors 65816

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    Yes this thing is definitely HOT for a lot of smaller video businesses! I can see it replacing my trash can in the 18 core config!

    Loved how they showed off VR stuff. This was really overdue!
     

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