The other day my wife's early 2008 MBP 15" would not turn on fully. When you power it on, you can hear the fans and optical drive energize. I tried every key combination and SMC reset and it does nothing new. I tried inserting the recovery disk and the drive reads it a few times and then nothing. Now I can't eject the disc in addition to the original problem. The light by the button you press to open the laptop glows intermittently. After reading anything I could find relating to these symptoms, I conclude that the logic board is dead. I've read baking the board is an option but only a temporary fix. I've seen lots of used boards for sale but I think those are only going to be a temporary fix and probably just baked boards as well. I've seen new boards at a few places with a cost of $800+. I'm leaning toward just baking the board and get it running to just back up anything that may have been missed since the last back up. I doubt I will buy a used board and at the cost of a new one that is out of the question. I'm putting my flame suit on now. I don't think investing in a new MBP is worth it at the prices they currently ask for them. I have read a lot about the reliability issues others have had with newer machines. Here it comes, I have never had a PC laptop ever die on me. The MBP that replaced the Sony VAIO still works and had worked at least 6 years before being replaced despite all the abuse (related to the crashes the MS OS put me through) I subjected it. I bought the MBP to have a reliable OS and that I can't dispute. I liked it so much in the beginning that I bought another MBP 15" a late 2008. A couple of years ago, it's graphic's card started to fail. Luckily Apple fixed it for me but not after a few trips with the machine not failing their tests. It was repaired but not to my satisfaction. It runs hot if I run or visit any graphics demanding programs and sites. I should have taken it back to the "geniuses" to straighten it but I didn't within the so called warranty period, which is my own fault. I just didn't want to make the trip (1.5 hours one way) or deal with the crowded store (extended periods of waiting of at least 30 minutes but usually way more). I have never abused either MBP and have tried to take good care of them. I really like the overall stability of the OSx. There have been good ones and not so good updates. I have never had a crash that needed to completely reinstall the OS and start fresh like the PC's before the MBP's had needed. OTH, I got my daughter her first computer anbout two years ago, an HP. I only bought that because I didn't want to shell out nearly $2K on a kid's 1st computer even though she already knew how to use a MAC. So far, at a price of only $600, it has operated as reliably or better than our MBP's in that same amount of time. I don't want to go back to any windows machine so I desperately need some good advice to avoid going back to the dark side of computing. The memories of lost productivity and futile frustrations from windows are still very vivid.