And there is no update button to update them. Have updated this after reboots and restarts because the 'update all' is always greyed out. And the offending items only say 'open' and not 'update'. But it's come back again now for the 4th time. Happens every day. Getting painful now. I think I'll just delete them if you can. Anyone else had these problems since these last updates for these. The AppStore icon always has number '2' on it. Have searched this and few years ago it had turning auto update on and off but that makes no difference at all. They come back every time you update them but now even when you do it still comes back.