Problems, Issues, Annoyances in Lion

[Nyalotha]

Personally I think this proves my point, I'd love for you to give Chrome a go for a while and see what you think - especially ask yourself how much set up you need to do to get it into tabbed browsing mode - none.

I think you'll find efficiency is way up on Chrome.

"Set up to get into tabbed browsing mode"


You mean pressing Cmd+T....I'm a little confused by set up required for tabbed browsing mode? I only recently shifted from PC (firefox) to a full Mac (safari) guy. Neither browser has ever required me take set up time or have a learning curve...especially for something as menial as tabs.

 

[Yaboze]

There's a lot of things mentioned that are gripes of mine as well.

I would like to add, it's quite petty, but it bugs me when it boots up or you shut down, how the screen turns white before the login or when it shuts down. It's brighter than the default apple logo boot up and it just looks off.

When I shut down last night, this white screen hung for a few seconds and showed a pixelated bar at the top of the screen "File, etc". It looked cheesy.

 

[The Cat Empire]

Personally I think this proves my point, I'd love for you to give Chrome a go for a while and see what you think - especially ask yourself how much set up you need to do to get it into tabbed browsing mode - none.

I think you'll find efficiency is way up on Chrome.

There's no setup involved in Safari for tabbed browsing. My tabs are always showing and I hit cmd-T for a new tab or I cmd-click a link to open it in a new tab. There's absolutely no need for me to change browsers.

 

[freedevil]

Say no to Chrome!

What Goes to Google

Google's full list of privacy notices about Chrome, and what its browser sends back home, is a very public document. Here are some highlights, and explanation:

• Searches, or partial searches, for auto-complete suggestions: Almost entirely so that Google can throw you back some relevant results. You can disable this in Chrome's "Under the Hood" settings by un-checking the "Use a prediction service" setting.

• Searches or URL loads with Instant enabled: If you've enabled Instant in your settings, or from the about:flags section, it's safe to presume that pretty much every character you type into Chrome's address bar is sent, analyzed, and returned to you. Instant searching is not enabled by default.

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• "No such page" results on some sites: If a site doesn't have its own 404/"Sorry, this page doesn't exist" that's semi-substantial, Chrome may offer its own "Maybe you meant this" page, according to Matt Cutts. You can disable this in Chrome's "Under the Hood" settings by un-checking the "Use a web service to help resolve navigation errors" setting.

• Bookmarks and other sync data: Like your Gmail, Docs, and other personal effects, Google keeps the data you want synced between browsers on its own servers, but promises to be a "responsible steward" of that data, as outlined in their general privacy policy.

• Crash reports and usage statistics, if enabled:

 

[johnmacward]

I don't care what some people say about UI design & how the user can deal with changes, simply screwing around with gestures that have been entrenched since ever is not good. Took me ages to get my two finger swipes to act as back/forward like they used to and they still don't always get recognized properly.

Grayer left/right arrows are useless - hard to see which is active or not. Ugh.

I'm also pretty cheesed off with Finder - yeah it's never worked the way it really should and neither is it all that powerful, but cmon - at least make sure the damn thing remembers it's view settings instead of randomly changing size of the app window & views. *Sigh*.

I'm simply sticking with Lion due to certain changes to security in the OS. If I could rip the fluff & other crap out I'd be happy.

While the scroll gesture was easy for me to get used to, I still don't understand the rationale completely.

Finder still ain't all that good, you're right and no major changes here either.

 

[jman240]

Cheers for the video man, I'll check it later definitely. I think you're primarily talking about non-fullscreen apps. Have a look at this picture I've sent you. Notice the Safari windows in a crazy order at the top depending on how you open other applications like iTunes, Mail and so on. When you three-finger scroll them it's difficult to know where you're going - I think the implementation is just bad.

In MC settings, uncheck the box to automatically rearrange things.

 

[Synergie]

As others have said, Safari has 'New Tab' fully covered...

The Numerous Ways To Open a New Tab in Safari:

1) the + at the right side of the Tab Bar
2) You can add a 'New Tab' button to the ToolBar
3) File -> New Tab
4) Keyboard Shortcut
5) Two Finger Tap on a link and "Open Link In New Tab"
6) Two Finger Tap anywhere on the Tab Bar and click on "New Tab"

 

[johnmacward]

I wasn't expecting the transition to Lion to be so "Meh". Unfortunately, I think I rather wished I had waited before making the decision to upgrade. Here are my main issues are this and hopefully they will soon be resolved:

When you have "full screen" utilized, I'm only sometimes able to pull up the dock (is that the list of programs at the bottom of the screen?). I'll move the mouse to the bottom of the screen and it's hit or miss whether or not the dock will appear. Is there anyway to keep the dock showing at the bottom of the screen even in full screen mode?

Where's the minimize button when you are in full screen mode? If I take it out of full screen mode, it'll shrink the web page to a quarter size of what it was. Then I have to drag it to open to the size I desire. ???????

It just seems very convoluted with how Safari keeps all these web pages open. It creates this chaotic mess in which I'm finding myself confused with where it's going to take me if I hit the back button. I never had these problems with Leopard.

I'm right with you on the logic of Safari fullscreen and even the cleaning up of fullscreen apps you no longer need - it's now difficult just to close or minimise a window. Add to that the mess and lack of functionality in Mission Control and it all feels very unfinished.

It's all very possible with a good implementation that it could the the OS design of the century but not yet.

 

[lyrrad721]

There's a lot of things mentioned that are gripes of mine as well.

I would like to add, it's quite petty, but it bugs me when it boots up or you shut down, how the screen turns white before the login or when it shuts down. It's brighter than the default apple logo boot up and it just looks off.

When I shut down last night, this white screen hung for a few seconds and showed a pixelated bar at the top of the screen "File, etc". It looked cheesy.

I am experiencing something similar. When I turn it on, after the apple logo, it refreshes into another white screen with an apple and it comes with a black bar at the bottom. It disappears very quickly and then comes the login screen. When shutting it down, there's a white screen right before the computer turns itself off. Are these known bugs with Lion? Should I do a clean install to fix them or do some of you that have done a clean install experience this as well? I have a 2010 2.93 i7 27'' iMac.

 

[fat jez]

As others have said, Safari has 'New Tab' fully covered...

The Numerous Ways To Open a New Tab in Safari:

1) the + at the right side of the Tab Bar

Which you don't get until you have at least one tab opened. I don't use Safari, so my copy is fresh from the install, i.e. I haven't played with the settings. On launch, the only way I can see to get a new tab is to either use the short cut or the menu item. In my view, they should show the first page in a tab, with that plus button to get more tabs.



On the subject of Lion annoyances, my pets ones are the reopen windows on startup, where I have to untick it every time and autosave.

I keep my financial information in a spreadsheet, which I often open and play around with the figures in to see what I can afford to spend in some areas each month. Most things in it remain constant, e.g. bill payments, but my salary does not, due to call out payments. However, what I don't want to do is keep a copy of these changes, as 90% of the values in there are constant each month. With autosave, the only way around this is to make a duplicate and play with my changes in that to ensure the original spreadsheet remains unaltered (or lock the file from saves, which then becomes annoying when I DO want to make changes). With Excel, I can play around, change stuff and quit, safe in the knowledge that my changes have not been committed unknowingly.

 

[The Cat Empire]

Which you don't get until you have at least one tab opened.

There's an option to always show the tab bar.

 

[ataboc]

My computer won't wake from sleep.


have to force shutdown.

 

[Aaron H.]

It's easy to show the dock in a full screen app

When you have "full screen" utilized, I'm only sometimes able to pull up the dock (is that the list of programs at the bottom of the screen?). I'll move the mouse to the bottom of the screen and it's hit or miss whether or not the dock will appear. Is there anyway to keep the dock showing at the bottom of the screen even in full screen mode?

There is no way I know of to have the dock always visible in a full screen app.

However, to make the dock appear in a full screen app move your mouse to the edge of the screen where the dock resides. Once there, stop moving the mouse and then move again the direction of the dock.

For example, if your dock is at the bottom of the screen and you are using a trackpad, move the pointer to the bottom of the screen and make a "down" gesture using 1 finger. Voila! The dock appears every time.