This behavior would seem only to justify Apple’s efforts to find other companies to build their stuff.
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Profit Margin Tensions Souring Relationship Between Apple and Foxconn
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Most likely this was done by foxconn/Hon-Hai corporate staff ... maybe the iPhone 7 defects done by rogue managers, that I can see. Yet touring 12" MacBook manufacturing/assembly lines before announcement to Google ... yeah that's corporate ALL-The-Way!
Indeed. Seems that the dozens of staff on both ends have had enough of in-fighting and multiple repeatedly ending meetings (top to bottom). Most probably are fearing jobs after next years holiday season. I saw another report elsewhere that 'your next iphone may be made in India'. For that I say Apple get some suppliers to work in the African continent ... lots of unemployment therein (save for a few west coast countries) and lots of land for large manufacturing plants. Also no issues from trade disputes and fighting over patents etc.
(to anyone that scoffs this idea, just remember back to 2000 when a lot of development jobs left USA and went to India, then the worlds largest textile country ~ still considered to be 3rd world, and look at them now!)
When there is Gold, Silver, Platinum, Palladium, and any other form of Cash/Trade ... capitalism and the greed and warring that follows is always alive. "For the love of Money" O'Jays wasn't written for the pop-charts friends. Philly holla ('73 babies ya know the time).
you mean Foxconn bid 'too high' (on AirPod Pro's) since that takes away from the profit margin calculations Apple had
Lowest bidder always wins - if they can keep up minimum demand and throttle up to 25% increase in case.If you’re operating on single digit margin, obviously you will find ways to survive. Can’t really blame Foxconn completely if Apple keep pressuring them to take shortcuts by keep lowering their margins. Running a factory has a ton of fixed cost, and operating in single digit margins may not be sustainable. I really hope something can be negotiated as this is not good. The souring relationships will only hurt customers with reduced quality of so called premium goods.
For the next iPhone, Apple will sell you only the thought of buying a new iPhone, no box or phone will be shipped to save the environment. Apple will recommend customers to use heir existing iPhones.
It is impossible to replicate the factories in China, for now. Over there, all workers live in dormitories within the factory so they can be put to work at moments notice. Remember how Jobs wanted the original iPhone to have glass screen instead of plastic mere weeks prior to launch. Basically Foxconn had to retrofit the iPhones overnight. Also it is common for these factories to be operating 24/7 to fulfill Apple’s volume. You cannot do that even in other emerging markets, let alone the US. This is not just about the skills or training.
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Having factories put a lot of fixed cost. By outsourcing it, you can have more margins by eliminating the huge fixed costs.
Yeah but I'm talking about the iPhone specifically, just wondering if that was the case.
Nobody forces you to buy thousand dollar Apple products. Nobody forces you to buy thousand dollar Samsung products. Nobody forces Foxconn to work for Apple.
Capitalism is the best possible system.
There are much less expensive products for you to buy. Do the math on the designer/manufacture profits With the cheap socialist owned companies. Cry us a river over the CCP owned company profits and how they pay their slave employees.
Go ahead.
True, not as easily said than done. However, I don't think skimming off the top is going to go over very well. I'm guessing Apple knew about this way before the story broke.It's not as easy as it looks. Here is a list of largest contract manufacturers:
Company Industry Revenue
(millions of US $)Headquarters Jabil Electronics 19,100[2] 
Foxconn Electronics 131,800 
Flex Electronics 23,863[1] 
As one can see Foxconn is essentially order of magnitude larger than the next competitor.
Apple 40% profit, wow!
Bring manufacturing back to America, you greedy liar pretending to care about USA workers!
Bring manufacturing back to America, you greedy liar pretending to care about USA workers!
Why? These manufacturing jobs are horrible. It’s essentially doing repetitive, boring work for hour after hour, for minimum wage. The engineering jobs are much better.
Well we've had 4 years of making America great again, how long is it supposed to take?
Is for me at least, I used to be the kind of buyer that would buy new when I had no reason to.
Now the bugs and support are awful. Genius bars aren't toooooooo bad but invariably as getting to the store is a hassle it's Apple online that you turn to. MR is really very good, the official Apple support forums, (and make no mistake that whilst they distance themselves on paper from it - it's still definitely them and theirs), the high ranking posters are rude and do nothing but tow the party line.
Then you've got the non-sensical removal of features that just makes using them a hassle.
Apple has no choice except Foxconn. It's like QC. Just look at them and how they manufacture almost all of the 5/7/10 nm chips for most companies. Even Intel and many others have not perfected that.
I think it's time apple started making all its products in the USA, use high tech to automate the lines and come back home.
Time to cut China off entirely and use automation to offset production costs.
Huge mistake going there for manufacturing to begin with
Time to cut China off entirely and use automation to offset production costs.
Huge mistake going there for manufacturing to begin with
I of course have no clue how much more an american produced iphone would cost, but even though the 12 pro max (which I will order next Friday) will sell for nearly 1900 dollars in Denmark for the one with most storage, i would not mind paying like 50-100 bucks more. I anyways pay it off over 24 months with no rent or fees. But again I am unsure if 50-100 bucks per device can support production in US.