I'm also pretty sure that Samsung makes a LOT more electronic products they market/advertise than Apple.
Is that chart just computers/mobile electronics?My guess is no.
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'Project Azalea' - A TSMC Chip Factory Dedicated to Building Processors for iDevices?
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I'm also pretty sure that Samsung makes a LOT more electronic products they market/advertise than Apple.
Is that chart just computers/mobile electronics?My guess is no.
Indeed - 12,000 Million = 12 Billion, otherwise Apple would spend just under 1 Million if you read the graph Intarweb's way
Sounds to me like he's saying that things are fairly good in our part of the world, all things considered. I tend to agree.
Indeed - 12,000 Million = 12 Billion, otherwise Apple would spend just under 1 Million if you read the graph Intarweb's way
I'm an idiot.
I now know why something didn't sit right with me as I was submitting the post.
Oh. I thought he was suggesting that a company was getting off easy. I also think you can't compare a company with an individual. Especially when talking about hands getting cut off. The equivalent MIGHT be that the company's products are banned and that was certainly on the table, wasn't it?
As a former resident of Oregon and current New York Resident, New York is the obvious choice. This state is doing a ton to develop its high tech industry. There's literally no better place in the world for nanotechnology and they're growing other techs as well. New York is poised to become the next Silicon Valley.
Well, that kind of thing you can recover from. You can't recover from getting your hand removed, at least not completely. But this is all very off-topic.
It does sound ridiculous sure but is not 8,000 million, 8 billion?
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The IBM East Fishkill fab used to produce PowerPC processors for the Mac Gx line up until Apple moved to Intel.
And it's used to produce the CPUs to Nintendo's Wii and Wii U, at volume that far surpasses all other PowerPC processors made for Apple. Ever.
However.. less than the SoCs Apple is using in the iDevices.
I hope, in this case, that you therefore think twice about what you buy based on the conditions people have to suffer through in the backyards where they are made....?
As a New Yorker, I second this! The New York Times recently published articles about how companies that get concessions from state and local governments rarely deliver on their promises.
not only that but making CPU's creates pollution. let someone else have these problems
I was a blue-collar worker in electronic industry. I know the work place conditions. It's even more nasty in old days.
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I'm personally glad to see as much of this move back to the US as possible. I believe that there is a pollution component to this fab, but it is better controlled here by people that have the ability to demand a safe working environment and careful maintenance of any waste in a way that can't exist in the other areas where these products are being manufactured.
Basically, people of NY or OR won't put up with unsafe practices where people in other countries may not have a choice.
IBM doesn't need to be interested in Apple. But, it has huge fabs already built and they are looking to lease the space that has been unoccupied for years.
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Doesn't IBM have a hand in the PS3 as well?
When was it built? Demanding requirements for the latest technology would likely need to have a total rebuild anyway. It would be great to get experienced workers. NY is a right to work state, isn't it? If not, the price of the chips would likely become too high to compete.
Already Made Here
True it is good for the US to have more manufacturing here. But these chips are already made here. They will just be made in NY or OR if this all comes to pass instead of being made in TX where they are made now. However, Samsung will likely keep the TX fab operational and just use it to make other chips so the net result should be good.
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I'm personally glad to see as much of this move back to the US as possible. I believe that there is a pollution component to this fab, but it is better controlled here by people that have the ability to demand a safe working environment and careful maintenance of any waste in a way that can't exist in the other areas where these products are being manufactured.
Basically, people of NY or OR won't put up with unsafe practices where people in other countries may not have a choice.
True it is good for the US to have more manufacturing here. But these chips are already made here. They will just be made in NY or OR if this all comes to pass instead of being made in TX where they are made now. However, Samsung will likely keep the TX fab operational and just use it to make other chips so the net result should be good.
Please name a Nobel Prize in Medicine winner who is major in electrical engineering.
I know, nuclear industry advocates say the same thing.
It's what the NY state government wants, I agree. There is expertise here. Thanks to IBM, of course, there's a skilled labor pool in the area, and there's also the educational programs. For example, RIT in Rochester has its own fab. You've got other big tech schools in the area like RPI, WPI, and of course MIT, so the northeast is a great place for technology education. NYSTAR has been active in turning NY into a major player in technology, particularly hardware I think, taking advantage of all those local tech students.
I really don't know what Oregon has going for it, other than proximity to the Pacific. I hope NY gets the factory.
Then we need many more fab lines. Human life expectancy in countries that do a lot of leading-edge semiconductor manufacturing is longer than the planetary average. If fabs are poison, then more fabs in those countries will help even things out.