Property Mogul Recalls Apple Store Fifth Avenue Planning, Says Steve Jobs Wanted 40-Foot Cube

[carlgo]

Building anything requires that the scale of it in its environment is extremely important. Everyone involved seems to have agreed to the size it is, and rejected the original idea. That's why they put up that red netting now (at least in CA) to outline the size of a proposed building. That's just the only way to know, and many buildings are re-sized based on that, or approve because they do look ok.

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

I personally think it was useful to think in terms of cubic feet. I think it gives a good illustration of the size of the thing once inside. Just looking at square feet would not portray that. Is like being in two different 1000 square feet houses... one with 8' ceilings, one with 20' vaulted ceilings. Big difference. So stay with your original math!

True, but there is a thing called 'waste of space'.

I think the 90's will go down as the era of the HUGE attics that were useless because of the huge amount of crossed trusses needed to make the roofs so steep. One story houses with two story roofs...

I was amazed that ten extra feet doubles the size. Things can be deceiving...

All I changed was the units. It is cubic feet, and ten extra feet is just BIG! Just thinking of the loads on each sheet makes me anxious. People walking under that too? There are times when big is just 'big'...

 

[vrDrew]

I think the 90's will go down as the era of the HUGE attics that were useless because of the huge amount of crossed trusses needed to make the roofs so steep....

This is a little off-topic, but there are very sound economic and structural reasons why a steeply-pitched roof is desirable.

To begin with, a steeply pitched roof moves rainwater off the roof very quickly, minimizing the chances for water intrusion. Keeping water out of a structure is the primary role of any roofing system.

Secondly, a steeply pitched roof maximizes the benefits of the "cold attic" system. It maximizes the flow of ventilating air from the soffits to the peak, minimizing the chances of ice-dam formation in cold climates, and minimizing heat-transfer in hot ones.

Lastly, a steeply pitched roof will last much, much longer due to the reduction of exposure of the roofing material (tiles, shakes, slate, etc.) to both UV radiation and rainwater.

A steeply pitched roof will undoubtedly cost more in initial construction. But over the life of the building will more than repay the initial investment.

 

[mtneer]

And that's probably why -- no one felt threatened by a struggling tech company. I'm sure negotiations would have been a bit different if Apple was the world's wealthiest company back then.

Yep.. Today someone like Macklowe would be the one needing introductions to Apple's C-guys...

 

[Nunyabinez]

Punctuation is a beautiful thing.

Let's eat grandma.
Let's eat, grandma.

Punctuation; saving lives one at a time.

 

[atmenterprises]

I'd say anyone who can't do the above is certainly worthy of reproach. Basic arithmetic is still an important skill. The OP clearly stated that a 30' cube is nearly the size of a 40' one, which is utter nonsense. Taking the time to think things through before posting is a sign of respect that we need more of.

You get bent out of shape for someone not having the skill to determine the difference in size between a 30' and 40' cube, yet you end a sentence in a preposition. That's rich.

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

You get bent out of shape for someone not having the skill to determine the difference in size between a 30' and 40' cube, yet you end a sentence in a preposition. That's rich.

While I agree that language is important, the importance of mathematics and how it relates to the physical world is of far more import.

I recently went looking for a 1 1/4" deep socket. I hit all the usual suspects for having one in stock, and was in the local Sears store where a salesperson insisted that a 1 1/8" socket would be 'close enough' to do what I needed to do. I was embarrassed for them. I finally, after being told that it would be 'close enough' several more times, took the bolt out of my pocket and tried to put it in the smaller socket. I got a deafening 'It's not going to fit' from the surprised idiot. FREAKING DUH!!! And this actually happened!

I weep for the future. Ideocracy wasn't meant to be a documentary of the end of civilization...
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I wonder why it had been such a problem from them.

It's quite a bit in front of the building, and is actually raised a bit from the sidewalk and the road. It's an odd location for a 'basement'. They opened a hole and built the cube over it. I wonder if the Louvre in Paris played a part in the cube idea.

Having been there, it is definitely iconic, and pretty awesome... Those huge doors alone...