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With demand for the iPhone X likely to far exceed available supplies, there is going to be a mad scramble to secure launch day iPhone Xs when pre-orders open on October 27.

I propose that Apple hold an auction to determine who gets a launch day iPhone X. It would operate very simply:

  1. People place bids for what they would be willing to pay for an iPhone X on launch day (with a minimum bid of the iPhone X's retail price); and
  2. The people with the top bids receive launch day iPhone Xs (eg if there are 1 million iPhone Xs available on launch day, the top 1 million bids receive them).

Advantages:
  • Facilitates a rational, calm ordering process (ie no need to all rush to order at once).
  • Allows the market to determine the order of deliveries rather than relying on luck of the draw (eg Internet connection, speed of clicking).
  • Destroys the scalper market (Apple is essentially cutting out the middle man).
  • Still allows people to buy the iPhone X for the regular retail price once demand falls and supply picks up.
  • Makes Apple additional money (remember: no bids under the retail price). Indeed, it could even give the extra money raised to charity.
 
if you have the money and want to spend more for an iphone x than msrp why not just buy it off a scalper like everyone else? I dont think apple wants to take on setting up auctions for a million separate phones.
 
Yeah, great. Price out everyone but the rich. Stupid idea.

That's how capitalism works.

And as I said, everyone can still buy it at the regular price. They simply have to wait.

if you have the money and want to spend more for an iphone x than msrp why not just buy it off a scalper like everyone else? I dont think apple wants to take on setting up auctions for a million separate phones.

Scalpers are a slow, inefficient process. If I buy off a scalper, I won't get it on launch day unless the scalper lives within driving distance of me. Plus, I give money to someone who was simply lucky enough to beat me in the race to click a button. Far better for the money to go to Apple or a charity.
 
That's how capitalism works.

And as I said, everyone can still buy it at the regular price. They simply have to wait.



Scalpers are a slow, inefficient process. If I buy off a scalper, I won't get it on launch day unless the scalper lives within driving distance of me. Plus, I give money to someone who was simply lucky enough to beat me in the race to click a button. Far better for the money to go to Apple or a charity.
If you think you're so special that you deserve it before everyone else, do what special people do and pay someone to wait in line for you.
 
"First come, first serve" actually is much more fair than "I pay more than you, I win".

In what way? First come, first serve is random luck when it is a mad scramble. User pays is fair because it sorts people according to demand -- those who want it the most will pay the most.

If you think you're so special that you deserve it before everyone else, do what special people do and pay someone to wait in line for you.

Is that possible anymore? Ordering for new iPhones have predominantly moved online.
 
In what way? First come, first serve is random luck when it is a mad scramble. User pays is fair because it sorts people according to demand -- those who want it the most will pay the most.



Is that possible anymore? Ordering for new iPhones have predominantly moved online.
if you have to ask, you cant afford it.
 
That's how capitalism works.

And as I said, everyone can still buy it at the regular price. They simply have to wait.

And as I said, stupid idea. We're talking about smartphones, not priceless pieces of art. First come, first served.

It's irrelevant anyway, Apple (or any other smartphone maker) would never do this.
 
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here's a question for u OP, how much are you willing to pay for this auction?

I'd probably bid $4000. I work very hard and earn a lot of money, so the amount isn't the problem. It is the randomness of the current system that is.

Fixed that for ya!

Income is a product of skill and effort, so it is fairer.

And as I said, stupid idea. We're talking about smartphones, not priceless pieces of art. First come, first served.

It's irrelevant anyway, Apple (or any other smartphone maker) would never do this.

Smart phones are market-exchanged goods, so it makes sense to use a market mechanism to allocate them when supplies are scarce.
 
I'd probably bid $4000. I work very hard and earn a lot of money, so the amount isn't the problem. It is the randomness of the current system that is.



Income is a product of skill and effort, so it is fairer.



Smart phones are market-exchanged goods, so it makes sense to use a market mechanism to allocate them when supplies are scarce.
ok so first off i dont believe you. But if you want to spend $4k on a smartphone but dont want the hassle of waiting in line like the rest of the plebeians. Pay someone to wait in line for you. It shouldnt be hard to find someone to do it for that amount of cash.
 
But if you want to spend $4k on a smartphone but dont want the hassle of waiting in line like the rest of the plebeians.

As I said to another poster, is it even possible to get a launch day phone by queuing any more? Seems Apple has predominantly moved to a system of online ordering.
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You wouldn't be suggesting this ridiculous idea if you didn't supposedly earn lots of money.

How is it ridiculous? Say Apple donates the extra money earned to charity. Raise money for a good cause and facilitate a rational, calm ordering process. Sounds extremely sensible.
 
That's how capitalism works.

And as I said, everyone can still buy it at the regular price. They simply have to wait.



Scalpers are a slow, inefficient process. If I buy off a scalper, I won't get it on launch day unless the scalper lives within driving distance of me. Plus, I give money to someone who was simply lucky enough to beat me in the race to click a button. Far better for the money to go to Apple or a charity.

Currently we all have a chance. Your idea we have zero chance unless we are rich and willing to pay over the odds. Stupid.
 
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I'm not allowed to say what I think this is but for anyone else asking yourself "is this serious?", I hope you come to the same conclusion.
 
if you have to ask, you cant afford it.

I've always hated this sentiment. Some of the wealthiest people in the world got wealthy and stay that way because they don't just throw money around simply because they can afford it. Asking how much something costs doesn't mean you can't afford it. It means you're smart enough to understand the value of money and not waste it, no matter how much of it you have.
 
If 100% of all profits went to helping victims of IRMA, than it would be a great idea.
But just be the first few to own for bragging rights and make Apple richer, is kind of dumb.

$4k for iPhone just because you have money? The hard working people that I know and have met, who do have a lot of money, don't go around throwing money at dumb stuff like this. Because they have respect for money and that respect is what will keep them wealthy.

But fools and their money.......well... I hope you know the rest.

But if you are that willing to spend money, buy me a new car under $20k. It will be a much better investment. Because you'll be investing in me.
 
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