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My phone currently has nopowerdown to stop slide to turn off from popping up so phone cant be shut off, airplane mode and location services and data settings locked with applocker. My sim tray has the lever removed so sticking in a paperclip does nothing, the sim wont come out and it wont power off unless you take apart the whole phone. Of course by now if the thief got this far there is no stopping him from removing the battery but those minutes/hours till they can take apart the phone (if they know how) might be all you need, but when a battery is ever put back in you will be able to track it. I wanted a solution that enables you to track your phone at all times and forever, no erasing with DFU mode no putting it in airplane mode or removing sim.
 
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A thief can still go into DFU mode with ios 7 and have your phone erased so you cant track it anymore is what I am saying.
As long as you have a passcode or touch id active then no one can erase it and make it theirs even in dfu.
 
This is a hot topic and needs to be discussed, iOS 7 stops a device from being able to be used after its erased but iOS 7 does not stop DFU mode, your device will be erased definitely.

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... No. The BootROM is the first step in the boot chain of any iDevice. DFU mode is coded into the BootROM which is only 64kb in each device and is Read Only Memory.

That is a tightly knit piece of code! I don't know how how hard it would be to get into that and make changes for what we need here but I will more than happily like to get a team together to try and figure out a viable solution. iPhone theft should be stopped, we have Apple and all these big companies and they cant do it so its up to us, anyone who has lost thier phone can relate and thats a lot of people.
 
That is a tightly knit piece of code! I don't know how how hard it would be to get into that and make changes for what we need here but I will more than happily like to get a team together to try and figure out a viable solution.

It is tightly knit. So tightly, in fact, that you literally cannot modify it. It is read only memory. Short of physically removing the actual A4/5/6/7/8 chip and writing raw data to the ROM (i.e., literally virtually impossible) you cannot. You would either have to do that or intercept an iPhone BEFORE it is produced and modify BootROM code before it is put on the chip.
 
As long as you have a passcode or touch id active then no one can erase it and make it theirs even in dfu.

I'm pretty sure a thief can still erase your device by putting it into DFU and restoring it. It's just that they can't activate the restored device afterwards without having your Apple ID password. So basically they'll just have a paperweight for their troubles, but you are still out a phone.
 
I'm pretty sure a thief can still erase your device by putting it into DFU and restoring it. It's just that they can't activate the restored device afterwards without having your Apple ID password. So basically they'll just have a paperweight for their troubles, but you are still out a phone.

you are still out of an iphone even if they don't restore it. They just can't use it for anything w/ ios7 and a passcode which is why I said "and make it theirs"
 
you are still out of an iphone even if they don't restore it. They just can't use it for anything w/ ios7 and a passcode which is why I said "and make it theirs"

You should not be out of a phone if they do not restore it, you should be able to track it with find my iphone at all times until either the battery dies or they place it in an area with no reception at all. Sooner or later they will, or the person they sell it to will plug it in and soon as it turns on it should register the new location so you can try to pinpoint its exact location and know where your phone is. The starting topic question was how to disable DFU mode without breaking the home button and I belive I answered it, thus making your phone trackable at all times. The sim card tray mechanism removal however is recommended and access to control center on iOS7 without passcode should NOT be allowed in your settings! If it can be accessed from lock screen they will just click airplane mode and even though you sim cant be taken out and DFU mode is disabled you will still be out of luck!

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Any one interested in detering theft of their investment by requiring both volume buttons be held down, as well as both home and power to enter DFU mode, thus making DFU mode harder to acces can contact me at thecopperlockguru@gmail.com as I belive this is a service people would want and I do enjoy knowing my personal iPhone cannot be put in DFU mode and erased by anyone except me when I really need it and am stuck in a bunch from some unsupported software or whatever you have it and need to restore.
 
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Sorry bro, personally I don't think it's a good idea to modify the hardware like that. Not only it can cause issues down the road if apples firmware updates detect the modification or have issues and cause the phone to crap out. Also for resell reasons since we don't keep these phones forever. A year or 2 tops for most and then the next owner or many owners that switch hands to have problems not knowing what to do to restore their phone and many other sides that can come from this. You can also never bring it to Apple for warranty work cause they won't touch it at all.
And also the thing that I wouldn't trust sending my phone to any random person from an Internet forum.

You should not be out of a phone if they do not restore it, you should be able to track it with find my iphone at all times until either the battery dies or they place it in an area with no reception at all. .

And what happens if they just pop the sim card out?
Let me guess, you got another hardware solution for this.
Weld shut the sim tray:D
 
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Sorry bro, personally I don't think it's a good idea to modify the hardware like that. Not only it can cause issues down the road if apples firmware updates detect the modification or have issues and cause the phone to crap out. Also for resell reasons since we don't keep these phones forever. A year or 2 tops for most and then the next owner or many owners that switch hands to have problems not knowing what to do to restore their phone and many other sides that can come from this. You can also never bring it to Apple for warranty work cause they won't touch it at all.
And also the thing that I wouldn't trust sending my phone to any random person from an Internet forum.



And what happens if they just pop the sim card out?
Let me guess, you got another hardware solution for this.
Weld shut the sim tray:D

Think he mentioned somewhere in a previous post that he disabled the mechanism where the SIM card tray would eject
 
Think he mentioned somewhere in a previous post that he disabled the mechanism where the SIM card tray would eject

Wow:D
Talk about acting like your phone is your most prized possession ever:D
As long as you practice some common sense and are cautious then your phone shouldn't get stolen IMO.
But if it does happen its not the end of the world to go that far with hardware modifications to the logic board and the sim tray. It still doesn't mean you will get it back by doing all that.
 
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