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What is your impression of the Photoshop CS3 Beta?

  • Wow! Can't wait until it comes out!

    Votes: 62 47.7%
  • It's okay... mediocre at best.

    Votes: 15 11.5%
  • Is this progress?

    Votes: 11 8.5%
  • Haven't used Photoshop CS3 Beta

    Votes: 42 32.3%

  • Total voters
    130
  • Poll closed .
Yes, Quad G5 Still Strong.

Quad G5 is still a winner. Mac Pro shows no advantage over the original Quad G5 in this test. Still focused on getting 8 cores next. :) And I won't be selling my Quad G5 when I get the OctoCore. It's a keeper.

Amen, I have said this before in response to your comments in this area but I totally agree.

The Quad G5 is a very strong Box.
 
I'm thrilled with the speed boost when using PS CS3.

However, because the brush cursors don't display properly, this beta is not something I can work with on a daily basis.

for some reason running cs3 under rosetta fixes this. i'm still not sure how they missed it though:confused:
 
for some reason running cs3 under rosetta fixes this. i'm still not sure how they missed it though:confused:

You are correct. However, the fact that it's a UB is the reason I downloaded it in the first place. If I'm forced to run it under Rosetta, I might as well use my CS2 version.

In any case, no matter which one I run, if it's under Rosetta, the fan on my MacBook is gonna be spinnin' like crazy...
 
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Originally Posted by simie View Post
Quad G5 2.5 Ghz
5 GB DDR 2
500 Gigabyte HDD
OSX 10.4.8

Photoshop CS2
1 History State
100% Memory

Time 36.03 seconds

Stopwatch Used

Just run the test under CS
Time 35.92 seconds
CS 3 Beta with 1 history state and cache level 6
1st run 53.35 seconds
2nd run 40.50 seconds

The second run, is always faster than the first on my Quad G5, I have done this test multiple times and get the same results. Restarting the Mac makes no difference to the test"

I see you have your RAM set to 100%. If we don't all run the test with the same prefs, the test is useless. See original post... Regardless, I think it's obvious that G5 users won't see much of a speed bump. After all, the G5 has run CS2 very well all along. Especially the Quad G5. The MacPro may be a hair faster, but it's certainly not blowing it away like Apple marketing would have you believe.
 
I don't know where they got those numbers... mine starts up much faster. of course, cs2 was much slower on my machine than their numbers.
 
I'm thrilled with the speed boost when using PS CS3.

However, because the brush cursors don't display properly, this beta is not something I can work with on a daily basis.

I applaud Adobe for getting this out to the public, but I wish they had fixed the cursors first.

Agree 100%. I was actually going to give this a shot to do some real work. But then I went to use the brush tool on a mask. Uh oh. I can't work with it until they fix that. It's a shame - that one little bug ruins the whole app for me.

Now, I've tried to go back to a PSD file, get info, and change it's default app back to CS2. When I click "change all" it doesn't take. Any ideas?
 
It's a two day trial. The thirty day information was a mistake on Adobe's end; supposedly it has been corrected. Of course it's been out for more than twenty-four hours, so I'm sure there's a krack already out. ;)

Snark

When you first run the program, you are offered the opportunity to put in a serial number or do a "30 day trial". However, if you take the trial route, the next time you open it, it will warn you that you only have 2 days left in the trial. It's a bug. It's really just a 2 day trial.
 
I see you have your RAM set to 100%. If we don't all run the test with the same prefs, the test is useless. See original post... Regardless, I think it's obvious that G5 users won't see much of a speed bump. After all, the G5 has run CS2 very well all along. Especially the Quad G5. The MacPro may be a hair faster, but it's certainly not blowing it away like Apple marketing would have you believe.

Yeah... its a bummer that he didn't have his RAM set to what I specified, but its okay in that we got enough people who did that so it didn't matter. I didn't realize when I made the specs in the first post that Retouch Artists had instructions as well, which conflicted with my instructions :p
 
Here are my results

Here are my results:
T0_-1_1834788.jpeg


Matthew
 
Regardless, I think it's obvious that G5 users won't see much of a speed bump. After all, the G5 has run CS2 very well all along. Especially the Quad G5. The MacPro may be a hair faster, but it's certainly not blowing it away like Apple marketing would have you believe.

I thought they touted that Mac Pro runs 4x times faster than comparable G5 or something to that effect?
 
macbook problem ?

I am running this test on macbook (core duo, 2GB ram) with CS3. Everything goes fine till it hits to Gaussian blur and that part takes over 4 minutes. :(

Anyone had similar problem ? My RAM seems to fine when I do hardware test and CS3 does seem to use up to 1.3GB RAM while doing this test.
 
I thought they touted that Mac Pro runs 4x times faster than comparable G5 or something to that effect?

[rant]
Oh look. Someone who thinks 'up to 4x faster' means 'at least 4x faster' or 'always 4x faster'. Certain CPU operations are 4x faster, some are only 3x, 2x, 1.5x, etc. faster. Non CPU operations (HDD access speed, RAM access speed, etc.) are completely unrelated to the CPU, and have a large effect on application speeds, especially when you're dealing with large data-sets as is common with PhotoShop.

Even during the keynote where the macintels were announced, Jobs mentioned that not all components were that much faster, so the overall improvement would vary. 'Up to' provides an upper limit, not a base-line, or guaranteed minimum.
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I thought they touted that Mac Pro runs 4x times faster than comparable G5 or something to that effect?

It fully depends on the tasks you are running as how well a given computer core (G5 / C2) will perform. What Apple listed is in fact 100% correct for the measurements they made.

In my experience for the developer tasks I do the Mac Pro easily out performs my Quad PowerMac by a factor of 2 if not more.
 
MacBook results

Hi.
I've done the results with my MacBook. Core 2 Duo, 2 GHz, 2 GB Ram, 80GB HDD.
Settings as described in post #1.

Restarted OS X (10.4.8).
Launched PS
Opened Image
Started test, result: 63 secs

Closed PS
Launched PS
Opened Image
Started test, result: 62 sec

Quite good for a non-MacPro or Quad G5 or sth like this... :)

I love my baby! *gg*

Bye,
Fritz
 
trial length?

quick question: I thought the download was supposed to provide CS3 for a while (spring) to use as a demo, but it is only offering 30-day trial. Am I mistaken?
:confused:
 
Gah....The benchmarking systems are all over the freaking board. Tested off of FireWire? 2GB of RAM vs. 5GB of RAM, systems that don't have matched settings. The geek in me is crying right now. :(


Now, I've tried to go back to a PSD file, get info, and change it's default app back to CS2. When I click "change all" it doesn't take. Any ideas?

Yah, don't use beta software to do real work, but I'm pretty sure you meant constructive ideas so... I've got nothing. ;)
 
MacBook Pro
2.0GHz Core Duo
2GB RAM
80GB 5400RPM Hard drive used as scratch drive

Same settings as aforementioned in first post

Photoshop CS2
after reboot
3 minutes 9 seconds

Photoshop CS3
after reboot
1 minute 18 seconds
 
quick question: I thought the download was supposed to provide CS3 for a while (spring) to use as a demo, but it is only offering 30-day trial. Am I mistaken?
:confused:

For licensed users of CS2, the beta can be registered and will last until this spring, when it is set to expire sometime after the official release of CS3.

For those who don't have a CS2 license, the beta can be used for 2 days.

(Although there is a dialogue box that, on first launch, indicates there is a 30-day trial for unregistered users, the trial is actually limited to 2 days.)
 
sometimes 100% misleading as well

What Apple listed is in fact 100% correct for the measurements they made.
Apple has a pretty strong record (at least in the "second coming of the Lord God Jobs" era) of making performance claims that are somewhere between suspicious and clearly misleading. In this case, what a typical person hears and what a lawyer would hear from the same ad are in different ballparks.

Sometimes, Apple's claims are simply bald-faced lies ("first 64-bit desktop" for the G5 is on the top of the list for obvious outright falsehoods).

But, we all know that Apple's marketing department has no scruples....
 
Apple has a pretty strong record (at least in the "second coming of the Lord God Jobs" era) of making performance claims that are somewhere between suspicious and clearly misleading. In this case, what a typical person hears and what a lawyer would hear from the same ad are in different ballparks.

Sometimes, Apple's claims are simply bald-faced lies ("first 64-bit desktop" for the G5 is on the top of the list for obvious outright falsehoods).

It is a bit twisted, but the early G5 Power Macs were somewhere between a desktop and a workstation, other 64 bit machines that came out before were purely workstation type computers. I did have an Alpha Multia though, which was a little more in the vein of a network computer than a workstation or desktop.
 
Yah, don't use beta software to do real work, but I'm pretty sure you meant constructive ideas so... I've got nothing. ;)

Haha! That's exactly my point. I don't want to use it for real work! I'm pretty much done trying it out but don't want to delete it off my machine because I never know when I might want to try out some new stuff, do another tutorial, etc.

But now I can't get the thing to stop opening. Every time I double-click a PSD, JPG or TIF in the Finder (or in Bridge CS2/CS3), the new version of PS will pop open. I've tried resetting that preference everywhere I can think of. I set it in Get Info and in the Bridge.

So for now, I'm just right-clicking and choosing "open with" but this technique is getting old FAST. Is anybody else having this problem?
 
Haha! That's exactly my point. I don't want to use it for real work! I'm pretty much done trying it out but don't want to delete it off my machine because I never know when I might want to try out some new stuff, do another tutorial, etc.

But now I can't get the thing to stop opening. Every time I double-click a PSD, JPG or TIF in the Finder (or in Bridge CS2/CS3), the new version of PS will pop open. I've tried resetting that preference everywhere I can think of. I set it in Get Info and in the Bridge.

So for now, I'm just right-clicking and choosing "open with" but this technique is getting old FAST. Is anybody else having this problem?

What I do when this type of thing happens to me, is make an archive of the offending program and delete the unarchived copy when I don't need it, and unarchive it when I do. I don't think I should have to do this, but that's the best I've found.
 
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