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PS3 (Impressions after 4 months)
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Coded-Dude
macrumors 6502a
WEll if Sony paid em to put up those posters....thats one thing, but it sounds more like the shops trying "gimmicks" to get em out the door. They seem to go in bursts around here. Local shops could have 6-12 for a few weeks, then all of a sudden they are out(with limited supply for the next few weeks).
precisely my point
plus it has much lower os overheads than the average pc , it does use linux after all . so is vaguely related to the mac and people have tried running os-x on it as it uses a derivative of the power pc
0098386
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Precisely your point?
So, the PS3 can't compete with computers in the market? Hell, for £430 I can build a custom PC that will run all the current PC games, with TV cards, video and image editing suites et al. For a quarter of that price I could build a Linux machine with 256mb of Ram and have it do run of the mill media streaming and web browsing. I could even build a comparable Linux machine for free.
If we're playing this game, then what about PS2 linux or iPod linux? Limited pieces of software that do not compare to an actual computer based around multitasking. I don't even think I've seen a computer in the past 6 years with 256mb ram.
mfacey
macrumors 65816
By far the most expensive parts in the PS3 are the Blu-ray drive and the cell processor. As soon as you'd configure your custom PC with those two parts you'd be hard pressed to keep within the PS3 price range, I'd say.
Stating that its only has 256MB of ram is also not really relevant. The system is optimized for gaming and media, so I doesn't need anymore.
MRU
macrumors Penryn
No but some developers have been kicking up that the memory cant be divided like the 360's 512mb can, so that the gpu can have more than 256 if needs be.
Well not entirely true it can, but not efficiently at all with the hardware so developers are stuck in practice to the 256mb.
Seems that we will get games with realy nice polygon count, but bad textures. You only have to look at the MGS4 or Killzone2 trailers to see this in evidence.
0098386
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Exactly. The guy said the PS3 can be a computer, so the RAM point is very important. As a gaming machine it's less important.
gloss
macrumors 601
I have noticed that. Seems like they try to mask it a lot of the time with motion blur and bloom lighting.
It really was a lousy engineering move on Sony's part. Not just to release the console with such a glaring weakness compared to the 360's hardware, but that they had a year to do something about it.
I think it just goes to show that ol' Ken definitely didn't have programmers and game developers in mind when he masterminded the system.
MRU
macrumors Penryn
A strange report was published here the other day that BluRay was outselling HD-DVD at retail, however..... the research did not differentiate between BluRay movies & games for PS3 and crammed them all together as one, making the findings some what artificial. Which is just bizarre.
siurpeeman
macrumors 603
exactly right. the only games i'd be interested in right now are metal gear solid, final fantasy and tekken (friends are fans of the fighter). even then, three games don't fully justify the purchase of a ps3. i'm not excited, nor am i looking forward to the use of blu-ray. sony, give me something to get excited about!
mfacey
macrumors 65816
Grand Theft Auto and Gran Turismo are two great upcoming games that look great. I also have MotorStorm and Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion, both of which are superb games. I can't wait until developers figure out how to unleash the real power of the PS3 and really use the huge capacity of Blu-ray. There's great potential for sure.
For that matter there's not really any games on the Wii that are really worth owning either. Nintendo's lack of really appealing content is what put me off the Wii.
steamboat26
macrumors 65816
^ I can understand how gran turismo is a must have game because i love all the GT games. But, I can get GTA:IV and Elder Scrolls Oblivion on my 360. Also DiRT and Forza 2 are close enough to Motorstorm and GT for me.
MRU
macrumors Penryn
It's the games with no similarites I'm looking forward to.
Uncharterd, Lair, Little Big Adventure, LocoRoco PSN, Ratchet & Clank.
Seems most of these would fall into the 'platformer' catagory abliet with puzzle, action, adventure sub catagory. A black hole of a area the 360 is actually pretty lacking in.
GT5 I couldnt care two hoot's about as I hate driving sims. (this applies to Forza too)
MGS4, well I cant resist buying the Metal Gear games, just to give them a chance - but mostly because of the hype, but I always end up get bored and fustrated and have no desire to play any further. Hate the controls, hate the characters. This time I will not fall for the hype .. No MGS4 for me.
WarHawk, I was very interested in but, as I'm not in an online playing mood lately and with this being online only - it kind of rules itself out of the running.
And the other goodies,
Devil May Cry, Resident Evil 5, Silent Hill etc.... are all multiplatform and hence to me are no longer system sellers in their own right.
Uncharterd, Lair, Little Big Adventure, LocoRoco PSN, Ratchet & Clank.
Seems most of these would fall into the 'platformer' catagory abliet with puzzle, action, adventure sub catagory. A black hole of a area the 360 is actually pretty lacking in.
GT5 I couldnt care two hoot's about as I hate driving sims. (this applies to Forza too)
MGS4, well I cant resist buying the Metal Gear games, just to give them a chance - but mostly because of the hype, but I always end up get bored and fustrated and have no desire to play any further. Hate the controls, hate the characters. This time I will not fall for the hype .. No MGS4 for me.
WarHawk, I was very interested in but, as I'm not in an online playing mood lately and with this being online only - it kind of rules itself out of the running.
And the other goodies,
Devil May Cry, Resident Evil 5, Silent Hill etc.... are all multiplatform and hence to me are no longer system sellers in their own right.
Osarkon
macrumors 68020
Really? I still see computers with 256mb of ram, even some with 128mb.
Back onto topic, I played the ps3 at a friend's when it first came out, and although the graphics have been improved, the gameplay itself didn't hold my attention. I played Virtua Fighter and some other game that I can't recall, but the distinct impression I got was of a ps2 with better graphics.
The 360 is doing well because it's been out long enough for a decent games library to amass for it - the Wii and PS3 have a long way to go to catch up. Once they do catch up, it'll be interesting to see what the impressions are then.
0098386
Suspended
No similarities? They're hybrids.
Unchartered? Farcry meets Tomb Raider.
LBA? Yoshis Story meets Lost Vikings.
Lair? Panzer Dragoon meets Rogue Leader.
I'll give you the other 2 😉
Which is what I've been saying in that other thread, games are so unoriginal now. Even the Wii stuff. Ho hum.
That's a bit strict. As the gaming landscape becomes more and more clogged with similar games it's easy to dismiss everything as derivative-because just about every single game is these days. I think MRU is on the right track-- expressing interest in games that are not cookie cutter copies.
Oh... isn't Ratchet and Clank usually made with the same engine as Jak and Dexter? Not that I mind-- I play them both.
Apple a Day
macrumors member
PS3 is far superior to Wii and XBox360!!!
Blu-ray (I use a lot!), media card readers, wireless internet, bigger HD, HDMI out, rechargeable bluetooth controllers, free online access!!!, Cell processor for the future! Holy Hell, how can anyone say xbox is better except for more games, which will ocme for the PS3! Oh, by the way, Microsoft?!?!?! Who the hell wants anything they produce? I also hear about xboxes catching on fire? Doesn't surprise me! I think people are jealous because they are poor and cannot afford it! No excuse anymore.... they are $100 cheaper! By the way, i know that the xbox now has the ultimate edition xbox (or was it the business, home, office, upgrade, professional, corporate, et al edition?) LOL! Now only one PS3, the best one! PS3 WAY BETTER!
Blu-ray (I use a lot!), media card readers, wireless internet, bigger HD, HDMI out, rechargeable bluetooth controllers, free online access!!!, Cell processor for the future! Holy Hell, how can anyone say xbox is better except for more games, which will ocme for the PS3! Oh, by the way, Microsoft?!?!?! Who the hell wants anything they produce? I also hear about xboxes catching on fire? Doesn't surprise me! I think people are jealous because they are poor and cannot afford it! No excuse anymore.... they are $100 cheaper! By the way, i know that the xbox now has the ultimate edition xbox (or was it the business, home, office, upgrade, professional, corporate, et al edition?) LOL! Now only one PS3, the best one! PS3 WAY BETTER!
zero2dash
macrumors 6502a
...fanboi? 😛
Don't care, no use, use wired, don't care, component is just as good, have 2400mah Energizers, free unmoderated online services with poor integration < Xbox Live, Cell hard to develop on < Xenon is easy, Microsoft has plenty of exclusives just like Sony. Xboxes on fire? That is soooo three years ago. Jealous/poor? Sorry...don't feel like wasting money, that's not poor, as for jealously, LOL if you get jealous over someone else's property or the things they have, you have other issues altogether.
Don't care, no use, use wired, don't care, component is just as good, have 2400mah Energizers, free unmoderated online services with poor integration < Xbox Live, Cell hard to develop on < Xenon is easy, Microsoft has plenty of exclusives just like Sony. Xboxes on fire? That is soooo three years ago. Jealous/poor? Sorry...don't feel like wasting money, that's not poor, as for jealously, LOL if you get jealous over someone else's property or the things they have, you have other issues altogether.
MRU
macrumors Penryn
Zero your so funny 😀
Edit. Oh and I wish people would stop coming out with CELL for the future ? 🙄
For peat's sake I want games now, I want proof of the investment in hardware I've made now. Besides there is no such thing as FutureProof, it's an utter oxi-moron, and folks that keep using it in relation to computer hardware need to have their head attached to an electroshock therapy unit. In 5 years time the landscape of chips will have changed and the CELL will be equally just as dated as a Pentium3 is seen now.
zero2dash
macrumors 6502a
Thanks bro 😉
glad to see Mr. Kutaragi is keeping busy in his 'retirement' though, visiting us normal peeps here @ MR 😀
Which reminds me...homeboy here forgot to mention '4D'. 😛
takao
macrumors 68040
i hope not on brand new computers since my computer from 1998 had already 128 mb
let me guess: those computers are eMacs 😉 (which people seriously defended being only equipped with 128 mb ram when i join this boards: "it's totally enough for OS X" 🙄)