You state;"
RE4 [to slightly-better-than-RE4] is the ceiling on the Wii in terms of hardware, I'm afraid."
Stating that RE4 is the ceiling of the Wii in term's of hardware says to me you believe the Wii's not capable of more than it. What am I missing?
Slightly better than RE4, I've said that & requoted it twice now.
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You just don't want to give the Wii a chance graphically, do you?
Haven't you seen the newer shots of Super Mario Galaxy? It's modern shading techniques look nice.
SMG looks great, I've never said otherwise. But there's no question that even the nicest that the Wii could do could (borrowing your phrase) 'hold a candle' to what the competing consoles could do.
I've been gaming on PCs since the DOS 2.0 days, so I'm not noob to this HD-bandwagon that most younger peeps seem to be so impressed with. *yawn* All I see these days are inferior screens when it comes to color and compression artifacts galore. The digital move kind of sucks at the moment.
I've been gaming since pre-DOS. Apple II.
HD support is not a deal breaker, I've never said otherwise. I'm far from a 'graphics whore', always have been. The majority of my all-time favorite games are Saturn and SNES games which pale in comparison to other systems.
Here's me being a broken record again and again: The Wii's GPU was developed during the same time period as the X360's GPU. Like the X360's GPU, it's a modern GPU compared to what's found in the XBox. Now why do you browser tabs not understand that a this hi-rez thing isn't new and that a modern GPU is way more capable than a GPU from 1998?
Agreed; I never said otherwise.
To the new topic at hand - To say RE4 was 100% of the Cube (Which I call FUD on as not even TP pushes the Cube) and that games will only get slightly better despite being 2-3x more powerful is a little bit of a daft statement to make.
I have no online searchable quote to show you, but I read an article about RE4 during the development cycle that Mikami (or one of the higher-ups in charge of the game) said that the game was using the full power of the Gamecube. Granted, this was several years ago so I won't be able to find the magazine somewhere in my house; you'll just have to take my word for it.
I don't spread FUD, Jimmi, I think you know me better than that.
IMO RE4 > Zelda: TP graphically, no comparison.
RE4 is the pinnacle of what the Gamecube can do, and a high bar for what is achievable on the Wii. That being said, I seriously doubt we'll see even 1/3 of the Wii's games look like RE4 when all's said and done. 'A select few' is my estimation, primarily games from Nintendo themselves.
Zelda is not a snoozer of a game graphically, but I think RE4 trumps it easily in many areas. Dave Halverson of Play magazine said [about RE4] "since when did gameplay look like CG? Right here." and I agree with him. I wouldn't say the same thing about TP.
And again, 2-3x a Gamecube is not that good when compared to the 360 and Ps3. Is there some stigma going around now that Wii fans want to have the graphics end of the argument as well even though that's impossible? The system offers different gameplay and wins in that regard over the other systems; however, trying to say the Wii is similar in power or can showcase games visually like the other systems is blatantly ignorant. Whether the system is capable of more (and Nintendo is holding it back because they refuse to change their tune in regard to HD gaming) is irrelevant. The Broadway cpu is a single core processor AFAIK, running 1 SMT. Meanwhile the 360 is three cores, two SMT each, and the Ps3 is 1 Core with 7 SPEs. Trying to put the Wii in the same 'power' ballpark as the other systems is like trying to compare a t-ball homerun to a Barry Bonds moon shot.
And FWIW:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii#Technical_specifications
Nintendo has released few technical details regarding the Wii system, but some key facts have leaked from the press. Though none of these reports has been officially confirmed, they generally point to the console as being an extension or advancement of the Nintendo GameCube architecture. More specifically, the reported analyses state that the Wii is roughly 1.5 to 2 times as powerful as its predecessor.[1][42]
...so I was off on my estimation/reading.
If anyone wants to continue this discussion, I'll do so in a separate/new thread if it's started. This will be my last non-OT post in this thread.
