PSA Microsoft Pulls Win 10 update

[maflynn]

Microsoft halts distribution of Windows 10 update amid reports it deletes files

I'm glad I waited on updating my win install. I was actually contemplating updating it yesterday.

 

[SDColorado]

Microsoft halts distribution of Windows 10 update amid reports it deletes files

I'm glad I waited on updating my win install. I was actually contemplating updating it yesterday.

@kazmac made mention of this in the Surface thread. I updated my two Windows 10 machines and it went without an issue. I always backup prior to doing an upgrade anyway, but it was problem free.

But it’s not something that should be happening at all.

 

[maflynn]

But it’s not something that should be happening at all.

Agreed - what worked in my favor was my inability to make a decision regarding Windows 10.

Do I use Fusion to run windows or bootcamp. I have both and I'm comparing/contrasting, both have advantages and disadvantages. Because of that, I've not fully configured or updated either one.

Back on topic, I was looking at the fall update, and I'm not seeing much of anything that is a must have for my needs anyways.

 

[SDColorado]

Improved HDR support, search previews, cloud clipboard, edge improvements and a new screen capture/markup tool seem to be the biggest ones. But nothing that constitutes "must update."

There was a feature called Storage Sense that was being tested in pre-release. It worked similarly to Apples "Store in iCloud" feature where it would store seldom used files on OneDrive. I didn't think it made the cut to this version, but I wonder if for some folks it is still attempting to do this and botching it?

I also wonder if people who are having issues previously had Windows Insider Fast Ring versions installed. Too little details so far, but I learned my lesson with Fast Ring updates last year.

 

[Queen6]

@kazmac made mention of this in the Surface thread. I updated my two Windows 10 machines and it went without an issue. I always backup prior to doing an upgrade anyway, but it was problem free.

But it’s not something that should be happening at all.

Same updated zero issues.

Q-6

 

[SteveJUAE]

Improved HDR support, search previews, cloud clipboard, edge improvements and a new screen capture/markup tool seem to be the biggest ones. But nothing that constitutes "must update."

There was a feature called Storage Sense that was being tested in pre-release. It worked similarly to Apples "Store in iCloud" feature where it would store seldom used files on OneDrive. I didn't think it made the cut to this version, but I wonder if for some folks it is still attempting to do this and botching it?

I also wonder if people who are having issues previously had Windows Insider Fast Ring versions installed. Too little details so far, but I learned my lesson with Fast Ring updates last year.

Ditto no issues on my 2

 

[SDColorado]

One guy reported that he lost 220GB of data that he collected over 23 years

A) That sucks

B) How do you not learn to backup your data over 23 years and 220GB of data collection?

“Stuff” happens and OS Upgrades are not an unheard of time for “stuff” to happen

 

[SteveJUAE]

One guy reported that he lost 220GB of data that he collected over 23 years

A) That sucks

B) How do you not learn to backup your data over 23 years and 220GB of data collection?

“Stuff” happens and OS Upgrades are not an unheard of time for “stuff” to happen

Yep regular occurrence someone blaming someone else all for the lack of a backup

I noticed that article as you noted from another MR thread but when I went to the site it was like 3 postings

Still action is in hand

 

[c0ppo]

That guy was doing backups. But he didn't do any backup in 2 months, so he actually lost just those 2 months.
But never the less, stuff like that shouldn't happen. I'm personally doing the backup almost daily. But sometimes I'm on a trip for 2-3 weeks, so potentially, I could loose a lot if that happened to me.

 

[SDColorado]

That guy was doing backups. But he didn't do any backup in 2 months, so he actually lost just those 2 months.
But never the less, stuff like that shouldn't happen. I'm personally doing the backup almost daily. But sometimes I'm on a trip for 2-3 weeks, so potentially, I could loose a lot if that happened to me.

Stuff like that shouldn’t happen, but it does and Microsoft isn’t alone...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.on...simply-updating-macos-can-lose-your-data/amp/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...your-data-if-you-do-not-perform-a-back-up.amp

Backing up before an OS Update is always a good idea.


It is unfortunate that the did loose any data at all, but 2 months worth is a long way from the 23 years worth that the article had indicated.

 

[c0ppo]

Well, press and real journalists don't really exist anymore. 23 years is a nice clickbait title, so of course they're gonna use that

 

[I7guy]

Microsoft halts distribution of Windows 10 update amid reports it deletes files

I'm glad I waited on updating my win install. I was actually contemplating updating it yesterday.

I just saw this on the news, and my initial reaction was just OMG. What a mess.

 

[xraydoc]

Fortunately my machine updated without any file loss.

 

[maflynn]

What a mess.

Not really, as with everything, have a backup and this is no different when it happened to apple, other then fans making excuses for apple.

There's a reason why I prefer to hold off on updating my OS, both windows and macOS. I'm still on HS with my MBP just because I'd rather not be on the bleeding edge.

 

[I7guy]

Not really, as with everything, have a backup and this is no different when it happened to apple, other then fans making excuses for apple.

There's a reason why I prefer to hold off on updating my OS, both windows and macOS. I'm still on HS with my MBP just because I'd rather not be on the bleeding edge.

It’s the potential scale of such an error in the windows side that got me thinking.

Windows may be a lot of things but I can’t ever remember, (the issue with ms-dos corruption notwithstanding) when I couldn’t “trust” windows.

 

[maflynn]

It’s the potential scale of such an error in the windows side that got me thinking.

Windows may be a lot of things but I can’t ever remember, (the issue with ms-dos corruption notwithstanding) when I couldn’t “trust” windows.

Nah, in the enterprise sector, companies wait before updating, and even then use standard builds. I'm not terribly worked up by it, but in creating this thread I wanted to communicate to others just to be safe.

I'm running windows in both bootcamp and Fusion For the life of me, I cannot decide which one to stick with. Bootcamp is running nice now, no heating issues, but the the allure of running both windows and macos keeps me thinking about fusion. Of course that option will cost me money (for the upgrade), where as bootcamp is a delivered product. I digress however, that's not the intent of this thread

 

[SDColorado]

Microsoft has begun rolling out Cumulative Update KB4464330 which "Addresses an issue where an incorrect timing calculation may prematurely delete user profiles on devices subject to the "Delete user profiles older than a specified number of days” group policy as well as a number of security updates.

They have also been rolling out what they believe is a fixed version of 1809 to volunteers in the Windows Insider program, for further testing before again making the version available for widespread distribution.

Microsoft claims in a blog post that they believe that the issue only affected 1/100th of 1% of version 1809 installs.

While not a wide-spread issue, I am sure if you are in that 1/100th of 1% and lost data, it is 1/100 of 1% too many

 

[Queen6]

Microsoft has begun rolling out Cumulative Update KB4464330 which "Addresses an issue where an incorrect timing calculation may prematurely delete user profiles on devices subject to the "Delete user profiles older than a specified number of days” group policy as well as a number of security updates.

They have also been rolling out what they believe is a fixed version of 1809 to volunteers in the Windows Insider program, for further testing before again making the version available for widespread distribution.

Microsoft claims in a blog post that they believe that the issue only affected 1/100th of 1% of version 1809 installs.

While not a wide-spread issue, I am sure if you are in that 1/100th of 1% and lost data, it is 1/100 of 1% too many

KB4464330 installed this morning, with no obvious change to system behaviour.

Q-6

 

[SDColorado]

KB4464330 installed this morning, with no obvious change to system behaviour.

Q-6

I am guessing if you weren't one of the unlucky ones, to begin with, you weren't going to have the issue. But no problems in installing the update for me either

 

[Queen6]

I am guessing if you weren't one of the unlucky ones, to begin with, you weren't going to have the issue. But no problems in installing the update for me either

Yeah no issues here, I still double check by running DISM & SFC commands, then backup.

DISM can be used to service a Windows image (.wim) or a virtual hard disk (.vhd or .vhdx). Important: When you run this command, DISM uses Windows Update to provide the files that are required to fix corruptions. DISM can be run offline, however you need to prep more, as you will need a suitable local W10 image.

SFC - System File Checker tool to repair missing or corrupted system files

Need to run from command prompt as admin

DISM

DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth

DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /ScanHealth

DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth

SFC

sfc /scannow

As ever golden rule backup first

Q-6

 

[SDColorado]

Good info! Thanks!