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No, it's the limitations of engineering. People complained-- mocked-- a monitor that came without a stand, and where the stand was a $999 option. Hardly anyone noticed that said stand was an engineering marvel, and that no other monitor of that size had so much balance, easy re-positioning, and flexibility. Very well. Apple took all to heart, and made a different trade-off; reduced the flexibility, but kept all the other advantages and reduced the price point. This is engineering, folks-- if you don't want to pay for it, you can't have it all.
You act like there aren't stands that can accomplish the same things, and cost less than $100.
 
I guess I am just going to continue to use my Apple Thunderbolt displays - now that we have a desktop option that can use both of them - at least I hope we can.
 
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For real, this is probably the worst thing about this display. There is no reason why I should be limited to a stand that can't be changed later for a VESA mount, or vice-versa, especially at this price point. This is greed at is best.
I’m inclined to agree. I have an immediate need that requires a stand, but would like to wall-mount this in the near future. The ability to seamlessly move from one approach to the other is standard and expected in the display world.

Also, Apple’s VESA solution looks inelegant.
 
No, it's the limitations of engineering. People complained-- mocked-- a monitor that came without a stand, and where the stand was a $999 option. Hardly anyone noticed that said stand was an engineering marvel, and that no other monitor of that size had so much balance, easy re-positioning, and flexibility. Very well. Apple took all to heart, and made a different trade-off; reduced the flexibility, but kept all the other advantages and reduced the price point. This is engineering, folks-- if you don't want to pay for it, you can't have it all.
The reasoning is ridiculous. I don’t deny that the Pro Stand is, from an engineering standpoint, exceptional. I agree that a more reasonably priced apple monitor should come with a stand a bit less flexible. But not giving us the ability to change from the stand to VESA mount is not an engineering constraint, it’s a deliberate choice from Apple. Apple could decide to give us the option to remove the stand and allows VESA mounting, as nearly every other monitor, even the cheapest one. If it was en engineering limitation, this kind of flexibility would be limited for more premium monitors, which is not the case. We’re talking about 4 holes and a few screws, nothing more

Heck, Apple could charge 999$ for the stand if not bought at the same time as the display, as they do with Mac Pro wheels, and I’d be okay with that. But forcing us to buy a whole new monitor just for needing to mount the display or vice-versa is just a greedy deliberate choice from Apple
 
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Can we have a version which has no speakers or webcam please Apple? If I'm getting two for my "studio" I don't need double speakers and webcams. In fact I'd quite like to keep these separate.
What if the all of the cameras and speakers (and microphones - there's a mic in there right?) could all be used simultaneously in a 2 or 3 monitor set up? Imagine the immersiveness of a teleconference where other a psuedo 3D image of you can be presented with spatial audio and microphones.

It could be a less clunky "metaverse" if everyone had multiple Studio monitors. Maybe this is the future "green bubble / blue bubble" fight.
 
Get the monitor with vesa mount and then get this stand for forty bucks:
 
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I don't believe either of Thunderbolt Displays (23" and 27") had any configuration other than the built-in stand. I don't know about the current models, but for a long time there were no mounting options and then there were some you could order with a VESA mount and I don't think is was changeable back to a stand.

Choice creates problems that people make up in their head. Keep it simple by creating and selling a single version. I am ordering the tilt-adjustable stand and being done with it. This made up scenarios remind me of my father-in-law wanting a new truck, but none had the combination of features he wanted. If only he could get a truck with feature X from Ford, but with feature Y from Dodge.
 
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We are not allowed to purchase a monitor with no height adjustability so we would buy the model with the visa mount and use our own mounts and stands. Lost of HR departments now demand height adjustable displays for staff or they get staff moaning about sore necks along with RSI and needing special keyboards and side grip mice etc. ❄️
Indeed, I think health and safety law in the EU requires some basic adjustability of monitors.

Anyway, I am not buying new Apple products because of the CSAM issue, but I woud have considered this if I was buying a new MacBook.
 
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I have 2 Apple Displays (1 Thunderbolt, 1 Cinema) that are over 10 years old, and have them hooked up to my 27" 2019 iMac. The displays costs $1000 up front and still work. I recently had to replace a cable on the Thunderbolt display ($80) to get it back in working condition. Getting 10+ years out of these monitors makes them worth the cost.
 
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As an AAPL shareholder, I applaud their drive to maximize profits....but as an Apple user I find it ridiculous they didn't make the height adjustable stand the "standard" that comes with the monitor instead of the ****ty "tilt" stand. I mean c'mon that's a $1,500 27" monitor that won't connect with anything but a modern day Mac without some sort of TB to whatever adapter. They should have also added at least the latest version DP or HDMI input, so folks in the Windows world can hook up to it natively.
Modern PCs and laptops should have no problem connecting to it using its Thunderbolt connector. I use my Pro Display XDR on my PC rigs when I'm not on my Mac Pro or Macbook Pro using a Displayport to USB-C or Thunderbolt 3/4 cables the past two years without issue.
 
What if the all of the cameras and speakers (and microphones - there's a mic in there right?) could all be used simultaneously in a 2 or 3 monitor set up? Imagine the immersiveness of a teleconference where other a psuedo 3D image of you can be presented with spatial audio and microphones.

It could be a less clunky "metaverse" if everyone had multiple Studio monitors. Maybe this is the future "green bubble / blue bubble" fight.
You can use the built-in Audio MIDI Setup.app to merge multiple input/output devices so they're used together. I do this with the speakers of two LG monitors. I'm assuming it will work with the two mics on Studio Displays too...?
 
I’m more upset at the lack of HDR than anything else. If it had HDR, I’d buy one right now.
 
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For real, this is probably the worst thing about this display. There is no reason why I should be limited to a stand that can't be changed later for a VESA mount, or vice-versa, especially at this price point. This is greed at is best.
Little bit OT but how exactly is Mac Studio modular when everything is soldered to the board and there are no additional slots available? Or do they mean modular as you can connect external USB drives to it?
 
Little bit OT but how exactly is Mac Studio modular when everything is soldered to the board and there are no additional slots available? Or do they mean modular as you can connect external USB drives to it?
I will say I got a little excited about that and then immediately a little disappointed.

But I'm not bitter. I don't ever crack open a computer these days anyway and I don't want to!
 
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At least monitor designs where the VESA mount is used to attach to the stand make sense. I'm sure Apple has their reasons, but that doesn't mean they're 'consume friendly' reasons.
 
Modern PCs and laptops should have no problem connecting to it using its Thunderbolt connector. I use my Pro Display XDR on my PC rigs when I'm not on my Mac Pro or Macbook Pro using a Displayport to USB-C or Thunderbolt 3/4 cables the past two years without issue.
can you recommend a specific cable? the Display uses a thunderbolt port so why would a USB-C cable work?
 
Steve must be furious watching thi from above… so much for the woke environmentalist at Apple obsessing with recycled materials that they can’t design interchangeable stand and pretend that it can only be done at the time of order.

Is the Apple academy still a thing or is it just full steam ahead into green woketopia???

Right, because so many people are going to change their mind and have no choice but to throw their monitors in the trash.

*rolls eyes at nonsensical faux outrage*
 
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