PSA! Up to iOS 10.3 Re-Signing!

Discussion in 'iOS 11' started by Banglazed, Jan 10, 2018.

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Will you downgrade to iOS 10?

  1. Yes

    44 vote(s)
    40.4%
  2. No

    26 vote(s)
    23.9%
  3. Stay on iOS 11

    39 vote(s)
    35.8%
  1. Banglazed, Jan 10, 2018
    Last edited: Jan 10, 2018

    Banglazed macrumors 6502a

    Banglazed

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    Currently, Apple is signing up to iOS 10.3 for iPhone 7 and older. If you would like, please downgrade as quick as possible since it is unsure when Apple will stop signing them!
     

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  2. deferredAnon macrumors 6502

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    I just saw it. I’m thinking about it.

    The disadvantage of downgrading are no patches for security holes.
     
  3. KamranMackey macrumors 6502

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    I'm personally not going to bother. It's not the latest iOS 10 release anyways. It's only 10.3, while latest is 10.3.3. I'm happy on iOS 11.2.5 beta so for me there's no point in downgrading.
     
  4. arman94 macrumors regular

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    People on other forum tell me that downgrade is possible, but phone cannot be activated. Now checking mine
     
  5. Banglazed thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Make sure it’s one of the signing iOS and let us know!
     
  6. arman94 macrumors regular

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    Yes iPhone 7 iOS 10.3
     
  7. pianodude123 macrumors 6502a

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    I downgraded my iPad 5 to iOS 10, and working great. Downgraded my 5S to iOS 7 and getting an activation error.
     
  8. arman94 macrumors regular

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    Yea that's the issue people reporting activation issue. Currently I am downloading 10.3 for 7, but I am sure that will get activation error
     
  9. Banglazed, Jan 11, 2018
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  10. arman94 macrumors regular

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    looks like iPad wi-fi can be downgraded, however any cellular version can be downgraded but not activated.
     
  11. pianodude123 macrumors 6502a

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  12. arman94 macrumors regular

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    Yes it is not signing anymore.
     
  13. Baby12 macrumors member

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    iPhone 5S and iOS 8 is possible! Same iPad mini. Well. You can install 7.1.1 on 5S and bring it back to life.
     
  14. aakshey macrumors 6502

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  15. carlvi macrumors member

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    Yeah, looks like it. However they're still signing 6.1.3 for the 4S and iPad 2 according to ipsw.me.
    Interestingly, though, they're now signing both 11.2.0 and 11.2.1 as well as 11.2.2 for all iOS 11 devices. Not sure why anyone would want to downgrade from 11.2.2 to 11.2.0, but it's currently possible.
     
  16. venomx999 macrumors member

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    How do you downgrade when possible ? Via iTunes ?
     
  17. gwhizkids macrumors 68020

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    Cue the "Apple destroyed my phone / my life because they let me downgrade to an insecure version of iOS" in 3...2...1...
     
  18. carlvi macrumors member

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    Yep. Haven't done this a whole lot since way back in the iPhone 3G days, but here's how I recall the procedure:

    Put your phone into DFU mode - this is done by plugging the phone into your computer while still powered on, then holding down Home+Power for about ten seconds until the screen goes black and then keep holding down the Home button until you get a message that says something like "iTunes has detected a device in recovery mode, blah blah blah". Then click Restore while holding Alt if you're on a mac or Shift if you're on windows, browse to the location of your ipsw file and go. Afterwards, use RecBoot or TinyUmbrella to exit recovery mode when you get error 1015.
    --- Post Merged, Jan 11, 2018 ---
    Slightly off topic: this may be just crazy conspiracy-esque thinking on my behalf -- but ever since the so called "battery/throttling/planned obsolescence/blahblah scandal" unveiled, I've thought of the possibility that Apple might allow users to downgrade devices to the firmware that they originally shipped with in order to squash the planned obsolescence bs. For instance, this would mean that they would allow me to downgrade my iPad 2 to 4.3 (not that I ever would use 4.3 longterm - I like using third-party apps, but it sure would be cool for a while!) and my iPhone 5S could be downgraded to 10.1. Perhaps they intentionally turned on TSS signing for older firmware versions in order to see how many users would actually bother downgrading their devices to older firmwares, which would in turn allow Apple to collect diagnostic data from the devices once they are running the older iOS version.

    This signing bonanza was probably just the result of human error somewhere on the Apple campus -- but it's interesting how it managed to happen right in the middle of class action lawsuits and conspiracy theories about planned obsolescence, especially seeing as they've never screwed up the TSS signing like this before as far as I can recall from my almost ten years of using iOS.
    --- Post Merged, Jan 11, 2018 ---
    It's also worth noting that they haven't yet bothered to stop signing 6.1.3 for the iPhone 4S and iPad 2.
    Downgrading these devices to 6.1.3 has been possible for a couple years now through the use of OdysseusOTA but proper SHSH signing sure makes the process easier for those of you who would like to downgrade an A5 device but can't be bothered with terminal commands, custom ipsw files etc.
     
  19. carlvi macrumors member

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    This is getting interesting. They just started signing all versions of iOS 11 for the 5s according to this page: https://api.ineal.me/tss/status

    So, in short, they went from signing every single firmware ever made to only signing the 11.2.x family, and now the entire 11.x.x family is signed for that device. The engineer in charge of the SHSH signing servers must be working like his ass is on fire to fix this right now :D
    --- Post Merged, Jan 11, 2018 ---
    I'm actually gonna keep track on the signing status for the next couple of hours. Who knows, they might mess up and re-start signing 10.x - I'd go back to that any time, iOS 11 has been awful in terms of the strange UI changes they made (no app names in the dock, weird headers in the stock apps etc) as well as the battery hit almost every device on earth seems to have taken after the ios 11 update
     
  20. venomx999 macrumors member

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    Are we still able to downgrade to 10 ? I have an SE and heard we cannot downgrade any more
     
  21. PR1985 macrumors 6502a

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    Those who downgrade do not care for security. I hope those of you will " get the bill" soon.
     
  22. theshoehorn macrumors 6502

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    This. Stop worrying about "slowness" and start worrying about your personal information being stolen.
     
  23. PR1985 macrumors 6502a

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    This is the reason I use Apple devices! Ok, Windows-PC and Laptop.

    If those stupid ...... use Apple Pay:eek:
     
  24. venomx999 macrumors member

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    Did they do this by accident or was it Apple playing games with customers
     
  25. Paddle1 macrumors 68040

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    They're still signing iOS 6.1.3 for iPhone 4s.
     

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