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Psystar Announces Program for Third-Party PC Manufacturers to Enable Snow Leopard Installation
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that would be dumb just say for some reason this turns out, how is flooding the pc market with OS X do anything but HURT microsoft?
I think the claims that Microsoft has anything to do with Psystar are ridiculous, but so are your claims. It's unlikely that any outcome of this trial would result in OS X being available on PCs in any significant quantities. Apple would surely adapt their licensing and distribution should Psystar win.
But if they did not and the PC market was "flooded" with OS X, it could surely benefit Microsoft in the long run. Anything that could potentially decrease Apple's revenue and slow the development of OS X could possibly benefit Microsoft in the long term.
Get real folks. Psystar is a total scam. They don't have any real hardware to speak of, it's all junk. Their only shtick is to steal Apple's OS and con gullible PC types to buy into their "Hackintosh" computers. There is no way they are going to win this thing as it is an obvious rip-off of Apple's proprietary product. If they COULD win, then anyone could rip off Microsoft's OS also and do the same thing.
so.....
core i7s
Tripple ch DDR3
10K RPM Raptors
Blueray burners
GTX285s
are junk?
so what is good in your opinon? 2 year old Core2duo cpus currently found in all imacs?
How does ReactOS prove him wrong ? They are basically reimplementing Windows from scratch, writing all the code. This is not what Psystar is doing, they are just grabbing OS X and installing it on PCs, without a license to do so.
according to your definitions of flexible and affordable right.
see that's the thing. there's a couple of dozen folks around here screaming that Apple simply MUST do this and that. but you all are a small cut of the folks that Apple is selling too. And funny enough even without doing what you say they must, they are selling a lot. There hasn't been a massive layoff at Apple (contrary to last years drop in FTEs which was the standard retail post holiday, the temp kids went back to school gig), no stores have closed etc.
So what you are really saying is that Apple can't do what Apple wants to do cause they aren't doing what you want. You want to be Steve Jobs making the decisions and because you aren't, whatever they do that you don't like is an epic fail and the ruination of the company.
But so far, that isn't fitting with the actual data.
me, i've been using Macs for 12 years and I do just fine to even great with what they chose to give me. On the rare occasion they don't give me something I really need, I work around it. Like that third party blu-ray burner and software and walking halfway across a room to my test rig (with a 50" screen so I'm seeing the final product the way my intended audience is more likely to). I'd still be taking that walk even if there was blu-ray in my Macs and the add-ons weren't that insanely priced when you consider that the company can take them off as a business expense
Not to change the subject, but this ReactOS project is fascinating and long overdue. Imagine freedom from Microsoft legally! With a virtual environment like Parallells on a Mac Mini, this non-Microsoft Windows environment could provide a fast, small, secure alternative for porting Windows Apps to the Mac.
not funny.I can see the disclaimer now...
Disclaimer **The Windows PC will crash becuase the Mac OS is too powerfull for the available device. Please stop installing, and buy a real machine. Get a Mac! The "gotta Dell" is an ol' bag of tricks!!!
Poof!!! ...your new PC just blew to bits!
Winelib and Wine have been doing this for years. I was using Wine back in 1998 on Linux.
There are important differences between this effort, which is true NT 4.0 compatibility for applications and hardware as opposed to a Linux base. However, the Wine effort is apparently closely aligned with the ReactOS effort on many levels. But I think this approach is better as it aims for a true SMALL, SECURE, FAST and compatible core of NT 4.0 without all the overhead of the current MS versions of XP, Vista and System 7, which are all basically successive versions of the NT 4.0 kernel.
All they are doing is reimplementing the kernel in a 100% compatible way. And no, they are aiming for XP/2003 compatibility, not NT 4.0. Wine is better as it offers a platform native way of running your Windows applications by reimplementing the Win32, Direct X and other APIs. ReactOS aims to provide a kernel capable of running the native DLLs and EXEs.
Both are different, but Wine seems the better design in the end as they integrate better in other OSes. Not to mention they've been around longer and as such have a working product, not just an alpha release.
I can see the disclaimer now...
Disclaimer **The Windows PC will crash becuase the Mac OS is too powerfull for the available device. Please stop installing, and buy a real machine. Get a Mac! The "gotta Dell" is an ol' bag of tricks!!!
Poof!!! ...your new PC just blew to bits!
The irony is that, price vs price, most PCs will have better specs than the equivalent mac.
I definitely do. I would actually buy a Hack from Psystar if I had the money, since I use Macs for the OS, not the shiny external chassis that makes everyone in Starbucks turn their heads and stare at me jealously.
I'm pretty sure the post you replied to was a joke.
And yes, I can totally see Dell or HP offering 10.6 preinstalls on new systems...NOT. Apple would s**t bricks!
Or software developers could wake up and realize the need for Mac compatibility, as this ain't 1997 anymore. No ports...Build Mac-native apps in 64-bit Cocoa, and customers will flock to you with their money.
You mistake disdain for jealousy.
And the look of that "shiny chassis" is ruined by the tacky white plastic power cord and brick that Apples always seem to have to use....
And yes, I can totally see Dell or HP offering 10.6 preinstalls on new systems...NOT. Apple would s**t bricks!
Actually, I've been wondering if the reason store managers are having a meeting in Cupertino early next week is that starting Thursday Apple will be selling systems with Windows 7 pre-installed.
It is the logical next step after switching to Intel CPUs, after all.... It also frees Apple resources to work on gadgets instead of an OS.
ReactOS is so remotely different than what Psystar is doing, it's completely irrelevant to this thread.
And have you checked the link you posted? ReactOS isn't anywhere near being done emulating an 8 year old product. It's 2009. We're on Vista/2008 now, almost 7/2008 R2. They're emulating XP with version .3. Pretty pointless, and only for those who irrationally hate MS and/or don't like OS X and/or Linux.
I doubt it, but hey, you never know. Would it make IE any snappier?
I've said before that Windows 7 will be running on more and more Macs over the next year. It'll be just the b**chslap Apple needed to tear themselves away from the iPhone and back to OS X. Wake up, Apple, Vista is dead and buried now...and your laurels are thoroughly wilted.
How? Its still a "rip-off" of a proprietary product. As MacD was going on about.
The need for XP backwards compatibility is quite high, ReactOS can fulfill that need while "Whine" and Virtualization is still rusty at best.
How is it a rip-off ? It's competition. It's a clean room implementation of the APIs found in Windows in order to try and make something that is fully binary compatible with the original.
It's not like they're taking Microsoft code and then selling it as if they own it.
It's only a rip-off for a very strange definition of rip-off.
And seriously, Virtualization and Wine are far more advance than this ReactOS thing. WAY WAY more advanced.
You have got to be kidding.
Virtualisation has been mature option for years already.
WINE is good enough for probably 90% of needs.
ReactOS is probably 3+ years away from even a basically capable product.
EULA's are just a licensing agreement - copyright is covered under different laws entirely and predate the concept of software licensing.
As with Psystar - they're not claiming to have developed OS X or even done anything particularly unique to make it run on PCs. All they're doing is selling preconfigured machines capable of running it.
Where is the "rip off", exactly ?