Im confused why would someone "of the intel userbase" not want to upgrade to CS3? And why are they forgetting about Intel, CS3 will be a UB?
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Im confused why would someone "of the intel userbase" not want to upgrade to CS3? And why are they forgetting about Intel, CS3 will be a UB?
I'm not condoning their position either... just condoning their abuse of their position.
And no... I don't own a fully legit copy of CS1 or CS2, because I don't own any copy of any pro Adobe software... because I haven't been able to afford it yet... and thanks to Adobe there isn't a serious alternative for me to use either (despite many well-intentioned suggestions from forum members in other threads on this board - thanks guys I am grateful, honest). Before switching to a Mac over two years ago, the thing I was most looking forward to was expanding on my semi-pro (ie, I enjoy it but I'm not very good) graphic design work... yet today it's the one reason I wish I still had a PC for. Ironic.
Readers in the USA might be interested to know that in the UK, at today's exchange rate, CS2 costs US$1,375.08 (US$1,615.72 incl. VAT). Illustrator alone (which is all I am really interested in) weighs in at US$827.70 (US$972.55 incl VAT). No, I do not get an edu discount because I am not a student... but that does not mean I am made of money.
OK, expecting the "stop moaning" flames now...
SL
I consider the practical lifespan of hardware to be around three years. So when I needed to buy a laptop last March, do you expect I'd spend today's money on last year's technology? I made a conscious, non-regretted decision to buy a machine for which the native apps wouldn't be ready for months. Adobe said it would be a year til CS3, and I'm holding them to that. A beta won't cut it. I do worry that this means late Q2, though.
Rosetta is merely the kludge that made the Intel Mac saleable.
You're darn skippy about maxing the RAM. I went cheap at first, but upgraded to save my sanity.
Not sure why you quoted me, then told me to relise this "reality" - but I didn't suggest for a minute that it was for "early functionality to desirous users".
I am a beta tester for Adobe, so I know all about CS3 already.
Unfortunately blinky, my friend - a lot of "us" have had to make that sacrifice. When doing genuinely time critical work PPC is currently the only way to do it.
my big question is about AE 8. 7 was a waste of time, creatively and professionally. its added so many kinks in our production chain. im hoping that 8 has a much better demeanor. plus being locked to a top speed of quad 2.7 for a year is terrible for trying to grow with demand for rendering HP. come on after effects 8... be good!!!
Upgrade From CS1 to CS3 Will Cost Same As From CS2 to CS3
Yes but the upgrade from CS1 to CS3 will also cost only $165 or whatever new price they choose to make an upgrade to CS3 cost. You don't pay more for an upgrade from an older version to the newest version. With CS1, I didn't feel an urgency to get CS2 when it first came out. Not long later, the UB concept was announced by Apple and I knew then that I would wait for CS3 UB before I did upgrade my CS1. I'm a very light user anyway.
Allex
I'm not delirious for a Beta, merely hoping the software will ship when suggested. Adding a Beta cycle suggests a timing delay, don't you think? Or are you upset that now every registered CS2 user is an Adobe Beta tester now?
I quoted you only because you were suggesting Bern limit his hardware choice due to software limitations. Easy enough to dictate the "realities" of others so off-handedly.
I'm happy your "genuinely important" work affords you the luxury of upgrading your hardware as often as it does. Mine just puts food on the table.
I'm not delirious for a Beta, merely hoping the software will ship when suggested. Adding a Beta cycle suggests a timing delay, don't you think? Or are you upset that now every registered CS2 user is an Adobe Beta tester now?
I quoted you only because you were suggesting Bern limit his hardware choice due to software limitations. Easy enough to dictate the "realities" of others so off-handedly.
I'm happy your "genuinely important" work affords you the luxury of upgrading your hardware as often as it does. Mine just puts food on the table.
Nah... I think it's pretty much agreed that CSx is a very expensive product. However, it's also very powerful. The nice thing is that it's modern enough that you *should* be able to use it for a number of years without requiring an upgrade... preferably through a few revisions of the product.
It's just like buying a new Mac. You don't have to buy every revision of your model of computer... just whenever yours is becoming outdated to the point of embarrassment. Speaking of which, I think it's about time to upgrade the ol' 800MHz G4 iMac. She's slowin' down...
-Clive
I haven't been following CS3 rumors at all.. does anyone know what Adobe's plans are regarding Dreamweaver, Fireworks and Flash? Is it likely to see them all reworked and combined (where possible) with Adobe Apps in CS3? Or will we get a Studio9 or some **** down the road?
$165? Wow, you certain of that? I checked CDW for upgrade pricing -- I'm running CS1 right now -- and the Premium upgrade from 1.x to 2.3 is CDN $652.99. I expect the upgrade from CS2-3 to be similar. From 1.x to 3? Likely pretty close to a straight-out purchase price. But Adobe has earned it for me.
I'm a heavy user right now (in that I use every day), but hate the Photoshop slow-zone.
True... unless Apple decide to migrate the Mac platform to another processor again!
Seriously... I'll probably take the plunge when CS3 is released (on the back of a holiday in the USA, as another poster has suggested). You're right, it should last me for a few years. After all, Corel Draw! 6 did fine for me on the PC for almost a decade... but that only cost me £50 in 1996!
SL
CS2 Upgrade Price is $549 not $169 Which Is Only Photoshop Upgrade Price
$169 only for Photoshop. The whole shebang cost $549 to upgrade from CS1 to CS2 Premium including Studio 8 and Acrobat Pro 8..
Ah. Sorry, MM. but you got me excited there.
BTW: I'm digging your Quad G5 rig. CS must sing on that puppy.
No, I advocate it, for the people that need it and for the professionals that can actually help Adobe make a better product.
Dictate? Hmm, OK. I suggested if it was important enough, he should have used a PPC instead of an intel machine.
Anyway, like so many professional users that make money from using this software I have had to continue to use PPC products because of time critical projects. That is all part of the job.
I'm sure, as does mine, but using a faster machine it looks like I am earning more crusts than you.
So, based on the past Beta releases from Adobe, how stable would you think CS3 Beta would be? Do you expect it to be fully functional, except for some bugs here and there as all the beta versions would be?
I think Adobe is providing free beta to the CS2 owners right? or is it free "upgrade"?
how does this work? can someone tell me.
I have photoshop CS2 and Illustrator CS2, how much do i need to pay to upgrade? (not beta)
thanks
how does this work? can someone tell me.
I have photoshop CS2 and Illustrator CS2, how much do i need to pay to upgrade? (not beta)
thanks
Possible Confirmation
Jeff Schewe, who is an author/photographer who hangs out with a lot of Photoshop people at Adobe posted this today on his PhotoshopNews.com site:
Looks like we will have to wait until Friday, but better than waiting until Spring so see what Photoshop will do on an Intel Mac.
Jeff Schewe, who is an author/photographer who hangs out with a lot of Photoshop people at Adobe posted this today on his PhotoshopNews.com site:
Looks like we will have to wait until Friday, but better than waiting until Spring so see what Photoshop will do on an Intel Mac.
Friday May Be An Early Holiday Present Day For Some But . . .
Excellent find. I just hope they don't make the mistake of limiting the free beta to only for owners of CS2 since there are likely many more CS1 and Studio 7 or Photoshop only owners who plan to graduate to the UB CS3 Premium than there are PPC CS2 owners out here.
Well, Alex you sure are eating something. Sure hope your contribution as a beta tester is more substantial.
More substantial than what?
I think you need to learn a little more about Adobe, then come back and give daft opinions.
I'm done with this petty little squabble anyway.
Hahaha, kind of funny seeing the heated debate on CS2, and there's some mention of Vista, even!
Anyway, from a Graphic Designer's perspective, it can be seen as a potential sales boost, it's an incentive in getting a new Mac that's Intel based.
I've known a few people who own Quad G5; they're putting the thoughts of buying an Intel based Mac aside due to the fact the Adobe apps aren't UB yet. However, they all have said the samething, that they will be putting the thoughts back once Adobe turn all their apps in to UB apps.
The rumors about performance integrity updates are nothing, but like a shiny red new bike to me! I'm so giddy, I really hope they're keeping the Core Image support on the final build (Opel GL Zoom? - Core Image? Core Animation?). Imagine, just the fact it's not emulated anymore, of course, the optimizations for Intel CPUs, and :crossing fingers: Core Image support, and myessss......
Personally, I won't trust beta software, I'd run it, side by side with CS2, until the Beta is confirmed to be stable enough (which I doubt, there's gotta be quirks here and there). I gotta use something more reliable, even if it's slow, to pay the bills (and assignments! -ugh-)
Anyway, from a Graphic Designer's perspective, it can be seen as a potential sales boost, it's an incentive in getting a new Mac that's Intel based.
I've known a few people who own Quad G5; they're putting the thoughts of buying an Intel based Mac aside due to the fact the Adobe apps aren't UB yet. However, they all have said the samething, that they will be putting the thoughts back once Adobe turn all their apps in to UB apps.
The rumors about performance integrity updates are nothing, but like a shiny red new bike to me! I'm so giddy, I really hope they're keeping the Core Image support on the final build (Opel GL Zoom? - Core Image? Core Animation?). Imagine, just the fact it's not emulated anymore, of course, the optimizations for Intel CPUs, and :crossing fingers: Core Image support, and myessss......
Personally, I won't trust beta software, I'd run it, side by side with CS2, until the Beta is confirmed to be stable enough (which I doubt, there's gotta be quirks here and there). I gotta use something more reliable, even if it's slow, to pay the bills
(and assignments! -ugh-)
C'mon, this isn't Microsoft. I used CS2 when it was in Beta for my productions stuff, I just set up a very rigorous backup schedule so that any work I did was saved automatically and duped to the SAN every 5 or so minutes. Adobe Betas are typically nearly production grade (in my experience), hell, I'm sure that MS would like their RC stuff to be as reliable as Adobe betas. So long as the file formats are the same, I think that if you know what the heck you're doing, the increase in speed gained by not running under rosetta would justify the burden of setting up the aforementioned backup regimen.