Public Beta time limit?

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  1. freeuser macrumors regular

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    Q: will the Public Beta run only till release of the final in oktober, or can I run it longer (ok, I don't)?

    Will I be able to update the Public Beta to the final, or have I to do a fresh install?
    Thx!
     
  2. nicklad macrumors 6502

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    You will be able to update it to the final release.
     
  3. freeuser thread starter macrumors regular

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    ok, I'll prefer a clean install, but will be nice, when its possible to update

    Thank you very much for your answer!
     
  4. jameslmoser macrumors 6502

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    I don't see why they would do such a thing as put a time limit on it. Its not like they are going to try and force you to pay for the final version. Yosemite is going to be a free upgrade.
     
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    The documentation states that it expires.
     
  6. jameslmoser macrumors 6502

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    Really? Where do you see that at? I am part of the beta program and its not listed anywhere on the site that I see. The installer documentation says its time limited but that doesn't mean it will expire.
     
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    I don't recall with 100% certainty, but I think it was during installation as part of the licence.
     
  8. NewbieCanada macrumors 68030

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    They want to make sure people on a supported, updated system. If something develops that needs a fix (like a security hole) they'll update Yosemite, Mavericks, Mountain Lion and all other supported OSes. They won't patch the public beta, so they need people off it.
     
  9. simon48 macrumors 65816

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    It makes sense for it to expire, they're forcing people to upgrade for free from a beta to a more stable version of what people opted-in to beta test. It will save on support problems and make the brand look better by having less beta installs around.
     
  10. jameslmoser macrumors 6502

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    Yes I understand this, but thats with all software. You are rarely forced to upgrade, in fact we are told as part of the beta program we will receive updates. You can run any version of OS X you want, and you don't have to install the most recent versions of it. I would just find it surprising if Apple actually makes it "expire."

    Though I will say, even if they do its a non-issue because the final version of this will be free, and it would probably be pretty pointless to remain on the beta.
     
  11. NewbieCanada macrumors 68030

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    You don't have to upgrade from Mavericks to Yosemite or Mountain Lion to Mavericks BECAUSE Apple supports and continues to update them. That won't be the case with the beta, so they'll make sure you stop using it.
     
  12. Jessica Lares macrumors G3

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    You will have problems with Yosemite required App Store apps not installing if you don't upgrade to the final version.

    The betas expire, but they won't lock you out of your machine if that's what you're asking. I seem to remember that happened with a Lion beta I left on my 2006 MacBook Pro.
     
  13. jameslmoser macrumors 6502

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    Yes, but they don't support Tiger and those old versions anymore either but they don't expire.
     
  14. simon48 macrumors 65816

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    Apples and oranges (pun intended), supporting an old release OS and a beta of an OS are completely different.

    If you are someone you wants a new OS and you choose to install a beta of a new OS you should understand along with it possibly being buggy, laggy etc. it doesn't have full support from Apple (and has none after said OS releases). Now the release version is 100% free, now why wouldn't Apple make the beta expire?

    By making it expire they avoid having to turndown people from support, people having bugs, third-party incompatibilities all of which would taint their image.

    When would someone want a new OS, get a beta OS which doesn't have full support, not update to the free release version and then have a problem with the beta having a expiration date? That's not going to happen much (if at all).

    By having it expire you inconvenience/annoy just about nobody and you save yourself and other people from headaches.
     
  15. tywebb13 macrumors 68020

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    There was a time limit on 10.0 Kodiak public beta. It expired on May 15, 2001. But the simple workaround was to change the date on the machine to be before that. So the 10.0 public beta can actually be installed any time you want, provided you change the date.

    I don't think there is any such limitation on the 10.10 yosemite public beta because apple have learned from the last time they did it that there is this easy workaround and they are powerless to stop it - hence there is no point.
     
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    Powerless to stop it, yes (assuming that it works the same way), but that doesn't make it pointless; the "masses" may not know about the trick and it'll therefore help push them onto the final release. The only people that would "need" to change the date are those that want to keep the beta around for historical interest.
     
  17. charlituna macrumors G3

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    There could be some final bug fixes in the released version so they might time limit the beta to force you to get those fixes. Even if it's just by not issuing updates to those running the beta.
     

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