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gumfishy

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My friend has agreed to help me buy a Macbook Pro to get a student discount. When I place an order on the Apple Online Store, can I use my Apple ID or should I make one by my friend's name? Does the name on the bill have to be my friend's name? I'm paying for this using my own creditcard and they must be sent to my house.

Thank you in advance. :)
 
No matter how you do it you are violating Apple's restrictions for the Edu Discount.

He's not the first one though. Many people buys from edu store but are not even eligible.

Make ID with your friends name etc and you'll be fine. If someone asks how did you get it, you can say that it was a birthday gift etc...
 
This is dishonest. Cheating, fraud, scam, whatever you choose to call it.

Apple goes by the honor system and some people are too cheap to abide by it. If you chose to do this, you are basically telling us you are worth $200. That's cheap.
 
I think we need to give this guy a break! I know lots of people who do this and anyone who says that they wouldn't like to save a few hundred dollars in this current financial climate is lying! Not sure how the student online store works but if you are buying from an Apple store on the street then they just require someone with you to have ID. It should still all be able to go through in your name with any AppleCare registered to you.
 
I think we need to give this guy a break! I know lots of people who do this and anyone who says that they wouldn't like to save a few hundred dollars in this current financial climate is lying!.

Doesn't make fraud right, or legal.

Read the fine print, IIRC, Apple can charge you the difference if they can't verify your ID.
 
I think we need to give this guy a break! I know lots of people who do this and anyone who says that they wouldn't like to save a few hundred dollars in this current financial climate is lying! Not sure how the student online store works but if you are buying from an Apple store on the street then they just require someone with you to have ID. It should still all be able to go through in your name with any AppleCare registered to you.

I disagree with the tone that SnowLeopard2008 used, but this forum cannot be used as how to explain how to commit fraud. Sure when people are like "I don't have to pay tax on Amazon..." I remind people that they are legally required to pay tax, but I don't tell people they are going to hell if they do not. This is a place for information and we try to keep things as legal and ethical as possible, I can think of a couple of ways that the OP could use to get the discount, but I am not here to support theft.
 
off your high horse people

This is dishonest. Cheating, fraud, scam, whatever you choose to call it.

Apple goes by the honor system and some people are too cheap to abide by it. If you chose to do this, you are basically telling us you are worth $200. That's cheap.

and how honorable would apple be if it were profitable to treat customers like rubbish.

OP use his account and pay on your adress, you could easily be a parent/step parent. you could be the toyboy of his mother buying him a gift. there are a million reasons to buy as a student, the discount is one of them, ps BUY the APPLE CARE, its 50£ here in the uk.

15% is not peanuts people are watching the pennys.

if apple can afford to charge me 15% less one year and 15% more the next year, how honerable is that!!!
 
and how honorable would apple be if it were profitable to treat customers like rubbish.

OP use his account and pay on your adress, you could easily be a parent/step parent. you could be the toyboy of his mother buying him a gift. there are a million reasons to buy as a student, the discount is one of them, ps BUY the APPLE CARE, its 50£ here in the uk.

15% is not peanuts people are watching the pennys.

if apple can afford to charge me 15% less one year and 15% more the next year, how honerable is that!!!
The phrasing was incorrect, this forum is not the "How To Screw Apple Over" forums. The whole, 15 percent off the bottom line doesn't matter logic is ridiculous. If Apple was interested in charity, they would be a non-profit.
 
Education store Terms and Conditions:

Apple routinely audits the purchases of customers at the Apple Store for Education to insure that only eligible purchases have ordered and that all purchase conditions have been observed. Should an audit disclose after delivery (or should Apple otherwise discover) that you were not an eligible purchaser at the time you placed your order or that you have not observed all of the conditions applicable to your purchase, you authorize Apple:

* If you placed your order by credit card, to charge to your credit card the difference between the amount you paid for the delivered goods and the price that Apple charged the general public for the same goods at the Apple Store, in effect on the date that you placed your order; and

* If you paid by a means other than credit card, to (a) invoice you for the difference between the amount that you paid for the delivered goods and the price that Apple charged the general public for the same goods at the Apple Store, payable in fifteen days from the date of the invoice, and (b), should you fail to pay the invoice when due, institute legal action against you in a court of competent jurisdiction, with the prevailing party entitled to attorneys' fees.

* Should Apple not offer to the general public the specific products that you purchased at the Apple Store for Education, your credit card will be charged or you will be invoiced the difference between the amount you paid for the delivered goods and the price that Apple charged the general public for the closest equivalent goods at the Apple Store, in effect on the date that you placed your order.
 
Doesn't make fraud right, or legal.

Read the fine print, IIRC, Apple can charge you the difference if they can't verify your ID.

How about if his friend buy the Mac with his own Apple ID, credit card, ships it his own house and then "sells" it to his friend? It's not illegal to sell a Mac, isn't it?
 
How about if his friend buy the Mac with his own Apple ID, credit card, ships it his own house and then "sells" it to his friend? It's not illegal to sell a Mac, isn't it?

They do not specify a time for ownership before one can sell, however, they do specify that the computer is to be used for educational purposes by the purchaser.
 
I really don't think Apple looks to carefully into the information you provide. I also don't believe they routinely audit purchases after you have bought your machine (yes, I saw the post that quoted the terms and conditions). If they do it's rare, and I have yet to hear stories of anyone caught abusing the discount. I believe they use your IP to see confirm your student status if you buy online, and that's it. I recently purchased a new laptop and iPhone Touch over the phone (due to a localization request), and the only proof of my student status was the guy asking what university I went too. Granted, it was a legit purchase, but no check was carried out (and I didn't use my student email).
 
I really don't think Apple looks to carefully into the information you provide. I also don't believe they routinely audit purchases after you have bought your machine (yes, I saw the post that quoted the terms and conditions). If they do it's rare, and I have yet to hear stories of anyone caught abusing the discount. I believe they use your IP to see confirm your student status if you buy online, and that's it. I recently purchased a new laptop and iPhone Touch over the phone (due to a localization request), and the only proof of my student status was the guy asking what university I went too. Granted, it was a legit purchase, but no check was carried out (and I didn't use my student email).

I have bought 6 macs and several iPods (back when they still gave edu discounts on iPods) under the education discount and of the total of 11 purchases, three were audited and I had to send stuff in to Apple each time.

It is actually fairly common that they contact you for proof.
 
I have bought 6 macs and several iPods (back when they still gave edu discounts on iPods) under the education discount and of the total of 11 purchases, three were audited and I had to send stuff in to Apple each time.

It is actually fairly common that they contact you for proof.

i bought 11 mac minis for office under the student discount, and none of them were audited.

Its actually fairly uncommon that they contact you for proof.
 
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