Purchasing iPhone 4s in bulk? Not 50, but 500+?

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  1. shinypenny macrumors newbie

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    I'm working for someone with a lot of cash in China who's shipping these phones over there where they happen to already have an unlock for 4.1 and are selling them to the people there.

    I'm planning to go into the Apple store and ask them whether they can sell phones in bulk, but I realize there are several problems with that. Still, all other issues else aside, how much of a discount can they offer me?

    Other threads, particularly one concerning the purchase of 42 iPod Shuffles, seem to indicate that the discounts they give are 4-6%. If I make a large purchase, are they likely to offer a greater discount? If so, how much more?

    Lastly, what are some other problems you can see with this? Supposedly, my buyer is willing to buy up to a 1000 or more, but I'm not sure how he can handle such a transaction (that'd be over a half-million dollars... then again, some Chinese people are just rolling in money..). If you know anything about dealing with Apple and how much they're willing to negotiate for purchases on that scale, please post what you've heard/experienced here!
     
  2. Goldinboy17 macrumors 65816

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    First off, how exactly will that get through customs? The fees would be... the profits made?
     
  3. ohaithar macrumors 6502a

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    I want to see the look on the Apple employees face when you say to them that you wanna buy 500 iPhones.
     
  4. Goldinboy17 macrumors 65816

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    Which makes me think, can they even do that in store? I'm pretty sure you'd have to call Apple to do this. I can't imagine they'd be trained to handle such transactions with all the works and such.
     
  5. saving107 macrumors 603

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    Before going to a forum, try contacting Apple directly and get your information straight from the source to see if this is even possible.

    Apple
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    more contacts:
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  6. sammich macrumors 601

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    So Apple sold out of iPhones in China, apparently because of scalpers.

    Next step, hire an 'agent' and buy heaps of phones in another country to ship back.
     
  7. trekkie604 macrumors 65816

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    At the Apple retail stores? lol...

    Good luck with that.
     
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  9. Surrix macrumors regular

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    Apple will obviously not support your endeavor to export US iPhones to China.
     
  10. MacDawg macrumors P6

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    As P.T. Barnum said, "There's a sucker born every minute"
     
  11. uiop. macrumors 68020

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    I'm sure you can buy that many iPhones as businesses and corporations do it for their employee phones. But ehhhh...
     
  12. Tomple macrumors 6502a

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    +1 :d :d :d
     
  13. Demosthenes X macrumors 68000

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    Isn't there a limit of two per customer if you just walk into an Apple store?

    You'd have to go to Apple directly, and if you say you want to buy 500 or more I except they'll want to see some kind of business documents that indicate you're a buyer for a big corporation planning to equip its employees...
     
  14. saving107 macrumors 603

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    Read post #7.
     
  15. Showtime3 macrumors member

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    rofl

    why are you people entertaining this, its a scam!
     
  16. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere

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    Yeah right dude:D
    Pick me up 1000 32GB iPhones please.
     
  17. shinypenny, Nov 7, 2010
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    shinypenny thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Although it's not a scam, the whole business is a bit sketchy. His profit comes from not declaring it to customs.

    I was thinking of going to the source, i.e. Apple but I've realized that's probably not possible as their own policies don't allow it. It'd be super awesome if they'd do it though because I get $3-5 per phone. :D

    At the moment, he's just buying iPhones from a bunch of random people on Craigslist. It works - but it just takes forever to meet up with these people and make sure that they're legit. Time is money after all...

    I've also called a few resellers and it seems they might not have them either. A lot of them told me to go to an AT&T or Apple store. I forgot these are phones.

    Interestingly, there are people who happen to have pallets of iPhones around here. Today, he bought 50 iPhones from some woman who is going to supply him 50 every day from now on. It's crazy. Thanks for your help!

    -- You're awesome.
     
  18. labman macrumors 604

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    you do realize all US phones are locked to AT&T best you can hope for is a Unlock after JB most of the customers in China will not understand this creating problems. no unlocks after 4.0.1

    I also want to watch you sneak 500 iphones through Customs!(hey look I think that guy has a bomb.) Then run fast! :rolleyes: I mean you think your going to get better info here then calling Apple direct! I would have done that 1st. fun thread though! ;) Apple contact info is posted right on www.Apple.com (Contact Us)
     
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  20. MrChurchyard macrumors member

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    I know of some high-ranking officials from the Nigerian government who would love to share some of their profits from over-paid contracts with you.

    Seriously, stop for a second and ask yourself what the hell you are doing. Please.

    This is criminal activity one way or the other.
     
  21. shinypenny thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPod; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7E18 Safari/528.16)

    It's not illegal to buy phones and bring them back to the United States. Buying them direct from Apple may include strings and terms that we would have to adhere to. Otherwise, free market, baby!
     
  22. shinypenny thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Well it depends on how many phones are sold and at what price. $5 per phone is the minimum. I get paid the difference between my buying price and $590, what the buyer is paying per phone.

    I understand your skepticism, I'm a pessimist about this whole thing, but since I'm just a college freshman majoring in international business, this kind of interests me. The money is just a bonus and who turns down bonuses?
     
  23. shinypenny thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPod; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7E18 Safari/528.16)

    MrChurchyard, I have asked myself that question too but after drawing a very cost benefit analysis I found the potential benefits outweighed any costs.

    I have no liabilities, no money involved and all I have invested is my time and my name. In exchange, I get an excuse to learn more wholesaling, how business with Apple works, dealing with buyers and suppliers and on top of it, how to make some easy money for college.

    I think a few users were correct in telling me that contacting Apple would be the best course of action. I think I've already figured their stance by now so I won't bother. At the end, this forum has been very useful. Thanks to everyone who has contributed!
     
  24. sirslaysalot macrumors member

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    apple's never gonna sell you that many phones at once unless you're buying for an entire company or something. which would somehow have to go through at&t's corporate department.
     
  25. Harrelson macrumors member

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    Im kinda glad Apple operates the way it does.

    Try to imagine every Tom, Dick and Harry trying to get in on some $$ by flogging iPhones over the black market? Terrible experience for the customer

    Your customers aren't very smart and as you're dodging customs they don't have receipts for their purchase. Not good when anything goes wrong with the phone or is stolen.

    They best way to own an iPhone is to walk into an Apple store and get one there, everything is set up for you and you leave with a working phone. Thats how Apple have designed

    Takes one unhappy customer to feel scammed for you and your accomplices to be nailed
     

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