Yahoo uses push on the iphone?
And if you read the posts you'll see that its up to Googs, not Apple.
The iphone supports IMAP and gmail uses IMAP. If Google begin using IMAP IDLE the iphone automatically becomes a push client.
Nuff said?
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And if you read the posts you'll see that its up to Googs, not Apple.
The iphone supports IMAP and gmail uses IMAP. If Google begin using IMAP IDLE the iphone automatically becomes a push client.
Nuff said?
Those two links tell you exactly what I just did, IMAP IDLE supported by gMail, but NOT by iPhone, quoting that second link you posted "After more testing, turns out iPhone does not support IMAP IDLE".
Exactly how I see it happening, if google doesn't release it someone will, not hard to create
How many ways can I keep saying this frosse, lol Google supports IMAP IDLE, iPhone DOES NOT.
Hey guys, I'm sorry I brought IDLE up - I was under the (mis)impression that the iPhone would support the IDLE command with the 2.0 firmware (hence 'push' email, etc) ... Seems I was wrong.
I actually have a .Mac account so I'm all set there - the problem is that I absolutely do not want to give out that address - I have an email address (my own domain) that I've been using for five years, and I want to keep using that. My webhost just enabled IDLE on their Courier IMAP servers, so I thought I was good to go. Guess I was wrong.
I actually have a .Mac account so I'm all set there - the problem is that I absolutely do not want to give out that address - I have an email address (my own domain) that I've been using for five years, and I want to keep using that. My webhost just enabled IDLE on their Courier IMAP servers, so I thought I was good to go. Guess I was wrong.
Not true. Yahoo supports push e-mail to iphone.
Gmail does not however, which btw blows big time. I have my hopes for Google to get that push is vital
Why is it so vital to you?
Well, since the iPhone doesn't support MMS, we have to use email instead - sometimes, auto-checking for new mail every fifteen minutes isn't fast enough, and besides - it kills your battery. So if you've got a Gmail address that you've been using for some time, it would be nice to be able to continue to use it and be able to take advantage of 'push' technology.
Yes... nuff said.. I had read the previous posts, but i didn't believe yahoo supported push.. had not heard that. But i see the stories now...
I setup my yahoo account on my iPhone and push is not working for me.
transmitter and battery life
The question is whether using IMAP IDLE from an iPhone leaves the 3G data transmitter on.
If so, it will kill the battery life, especially with 3G, which uses a radio which can require a lot of power to get that higher data bandwidth. Blackberry-style push email does not use the the high power data channel, but the ringer signaling channel, which has to be low power, since it's always on so that your phone can ring nearly instantly.
The difference could be as much as 20-40X in battery life.
The question is whether using IMAP IDLE from an iPhone leaves the 3G data transmitter on.
If so, it will kill the battery life, especially with 3G, which uses a radio which can require a lot of power to get that higher data bandwidth. Blackberry-style push email does not use the the high power data channel, but the ringer signaling channel, which has to be low power, since it's always on so that your phone can ring nearly instantly.
The difference could be as much as 20-40X in battery life.
i use gmail with IMAP IDLE on my n95 and the data connection remains on but inactive. it does not seem to have any significant impact on battery life and i get the email on my phone seconds after it appears on my mbp.
iPhone 2.0 supports push services by using Microsoft Activesync technology. Therefore any services (ie corporations,buisness,university,etc.) that use Activiesync would be able to use "push" features with their iphone.
MobileMe catch phrase is "Exchange for the rest of us"
meaning those that are not ALREADY part of some enterprise that use exchange. If do a simple search in google, you will see many companies that provide Exchange services for a single/private user starting at only $3.00 per month. In fact I was such a company when I had my Sprint Windows Mobile Phone and it worked wonderfully. MobileMe gives a bit more in terms of the total package, not just the "push" services, but if someone wanted "push" only and not the other apple features, then they could save money using other Exchange companies.
not rocket science
i don't know why there is so much he said she said over this like its rocket science....the iPhone DOES not support IDLE with its current software, which is why it makes you use the check mail feature...thats pretty in your face. the 2.0 software will allow the mobileme push email for .mac/me mail app, but thats cuz .mac members are PAYING for it with their subscription service and the 2.0 software can maintain a constant connection to the server, plain and simple. The truth of the matter is, Apple has not mentioned pushing other email at this time. The walkaround 2.0 showed the iphone will have a push button for all services that will allow it (at this time it only looks like it will be exchange server and .mac), and the option to check/pull at intervals for ALL OTHER MAIL (GMAIL!)
So theres really no need to ask everyone what do they think and then argue with everyone about it. Its a waiting game, we will see if Gmail will be able to work with the push feature that the iphone supports, thats all anyone can do now.
i don't know why there is so much he said she said over this like its rocket science....the iPhone DOES not support IDLE with its current software, which is why it makes you use the check mail feature...thats pretty in your face. the 2.0 software will allow the mobileme push email for .mac/me mail app, but thats cuz .mac members are PAYING for it with their subscription service and the 2.0 software can maintain a constant connection to the server, plain and simple. The truth of the matter is, Apple has not mentioned pushing other email at this time. The walkaround 2.0 showed the iphone will have a push button for all services that will allow it (at this time it only looks like it will be exchange server and .mac), and the option to check/pull at intervals for ALL OTHER MAIL (GMAIL!)
So theres really no need to ask everyone what do they think and then argue with everyone about it. Its a waiting game, we will see if Gmail will be able to work with the push feature that the iphone supports, thats all anyone can do now.
Seriously, Mail2Web looks horrible. It's like Outlook on the web eeeeeeeeewwwww how ca you seriously pay for that ???
Technically it would have to in some way - it needs to keep a TCP connection open to listen for changes to the inbox... even though that doesn't in itself transmit any data (it's only 'open' in a logical sense) for it to work your IP address needs to be registered and unchanging so the packets can go to the server to the client.
The imap idle client on the 2G iphone used to hammer the battery for this reason.
That's pretty much true of any push technology, short of those that use things like SMS (or other out of band signalling). Since apple are talking about push notification for things like AIM from a central server the iphone must be designed to do be able to do this without eating battery.. otherwise the whole push thing will end up being fairly useless. Apple simply wouldn't have started down this road unless they had a working solution.
I don't even go near it on the web, its solely there to enable push email through exchange server. My gmail is set up on Apple Mail on my macbook, whilst mail2web is just there as a "back end" - gmail is forwarded to it (whilst keeping copy in the gmail inbox for the laptop) and then it is pushed to the phone that I use at the time (be it the iphone when it supports exchange or any other mobile that supports exchange).
I agree, its a horrible gui online, but if you use it in the manner I've described in my previous post you get push email for gmail at a cost cheaper than .mac.