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Discussion in 'iPhone' started by Eric Lewis, Jul 9, 2008.
Is that possible? i dont want to have to search for new mail..i want it pushed?
This has been discussed on here a lot, and there's no sign of google adding it anytime soon. I wouldn't be surprised to see it within the next 18 months, though.
I too was wondering about this...
You know you can set up your iPhone to collect mail from your mail account -- ANY mail account -- every 15 minutes, right?
How more often do you need?
If someone can't wait 15 minutes for you to respond to an email they should call or text message you!
Hope this helps
Yes, yes, we're all already using IMAP but it just isn't as good as push.
the question was about push gmail.
I am planning to forward my gmail to me. Do you think this will work?
Sorry kinda confused on the whole "push" thing..whats the difference with "Push" and IMAP?
And can't you forward your Gmail to a supported server email address? But when you reply would it reply from gmail or that forwarded email address?
Sorry..I don't know much about the whole "push" thing...
That's what I just setup...the forwarding is instant and by using gmail filters to forwared selected email provides nice fine grain control. I really don't need my mailing list subscriptions pushed, but everything else.
Actual push via Google mechanisms? Doubt it'll ever happen...
I for one think there will be gmail push. However google will come out with it's own mail app for the iphone instead of the current mail app were all used to using. I dont see apple letting google use the default apps (calendar, mail, contacts) to have them pushed into. That would kill the purpose of mobile me. Apple does like the $100 subscription revenue, so why offer google the tools for free so then google can turn around and offer free push services. It doesnt make sense. The only thing I can see is google developing it's own native applications.
the difference is in which device initiates the connection, push comes from the server, while POP3/IMAP (pull) comes from the device
I would have agreed for you if it weren't for the fact that Apple have been facilitating Yahoo! push mail for a while.
Google offers Gmail push for Helio devices, so hopefully they'll add it for iPhones too. If they do, I'm guessing (could be wrong) that a software update for the iPhone would be needed. The beta 8 of the 2.0 firmware still has Gmail as a fetch provider, not push. So even if Google turns on, would the Mail app still think it can only fetch? Or would this information be sent back to the phone that it can now push? Only way (currently) is to have your Gmail forward to Exchange, Yahoo, or MobileMe (or if something else has push on the iPhone).
I'm hoping Apple surprises us with MobileMe and lets you add other email addresses (with proper reply names) to check and push, like Blackberry does. Guess we'll find out tonight/tomorrow.
Yes you are correct on that part. However google is about to release android and I am sure google is saving they "best stuff" for their own operating system. Look at the street view on their handsets. You don't see that on the iPhone. Don't get me wrong, google would love to have push services on the iphone. However since they are working on their operating system, they will keep iphone services "good" and make android services "awesome". I wish they did offer push services since I am a heavy google user.
Couldn't this be solved if Apple enabled IMAP IDLE? I don't think its a problem on Google's side. Gmail on a BlackBerry works just fine.
Does it push to your iPhone like Yahoo does?
Why don't you all submit a feature request to Google? The more feature requests they get the more likely it is we'll see it sooner:
You are aware that Apple controls the apps that are allowed onto the iPhone, right? They wouldn't allow for google to prance in and start doing that for free.
To setup your Gmail to "push" you need to do the following.
1. Setup a Yahoo! mail account
2. Once it is setup, go into your iPhone and setup your Yahoo! mail account.
3. Go into your Gmail settings to the "Pop/Forwarding" tab, and setup your Gmail to forward all messages to your Yahoo! mail account. (don't worry, forwarding sends the email and it will show up in Yahoo! as the original senders name, not your name attached to every email that was forwarded)
4. Now, any emails that are sent to your Gmail account will be "pushed" to your iPhone via the Yahoo! account.
5. Your not done yet. If you try to reply to an email from your iPhone, it attaches the firstname.lastname@example.org as the sender. We want it to say email@example.com.
So go into your "settings" in the iPhone, then go to "mail", then tap on your Yahoo! account. Next tap on the "Address" field for the Yahoo! account and simply delete the firstname.lastname@example.org and change it to email@example.com. Thats it.
6. Now when you respond to emails, it will appear that it was sent from your Gmail account.
NOTE: One issue I ran into is that anything you send from your iPhone shows up in your Gmail inbox as an email from yourself. What I did was just to go back to the forwarding settings in Gmail and set your forwarded emails to automatically archive. I am trying to find a way around this.
NOTE: After making the above changes, if you try to turn off your Gmail account on the iPhone, you will not be able to send any more emails. You need to leave it on.
I think Gmail will offer push sooner than later. There is a big demand for it. Plus with google apps being use more and more in corp world they will have to offer it. Its just a matter of time. Also I think moblie me doesnt do enough for a hundred dollars so I'll wait for push gmail. They should have included moblieme as apart of the data like Blackberry anyway.
I'm trying to understand the big deal with push versus pull. When I want to read/check my email, I bring it up and it gets the available messages and I can read them. What is the big allure in having the phone notify you there are emails available, seems intrusive unless you're a business and need to respond as soon as they come in. Limited use to me really, but everyone's situation is different. I'm just looking forward to being able to read my Gmail and also view my Google Calendar on my phone. Has anyone tried to use Google Docs on the iPhone?
Counting down to Friday...
Gmail already supports push. I have had it on my last two Sony Ericsson phones (like the w580i). Whether Apple supports it is completely different.
no, gmail only supports push on a few helio phones...
EDIT: ignore this, gmail supports IDLE which some symbian phones do, and SE run symbiam