Push Notification question?

[Toby Goodbar]

ok, in order for push notification to work, i understand there needs to be an active internet connection either through wifi or carrier.

BUT, if lets say, there is no wifi and the carrier signal is out of range temporarily for whatever reason. bad coverage, reboot/phone off, etc, will the push notifications be completely missed or will you receive them after the fact the way you would an SMS?

 

[celticpride678]

Once you re-connect to a cellular signal or Wi-Fi network, you'll receive the push notifications you missed.

 

[Toby Goodbar]

Once you re-connect to a cellular signal or Wi-Fi network, you'll receive the push notifications you missed.

This is what i thought. Currently i only use push notifications with Youmail. if i dont have signal i don't get a push from youmail untill someone leaves a voicemail while i have signal. it doesn't seem to "update" once i get back in range. i didn't know if this was normal for push, or a problem with youmail....

BTW, i'm on a 3GS running 4.0 just in case anyone reading this is interested

 

[moussekateer]

I'm having the same problem. If I receive any push notifications while I have no internet access they never arrive even when I get back internet. I'm pretty sure this isn't what it was like on 3.1.3. I'm running 4.0.1 iPhone 4

 

[Toby Goodbar]

I'm having the same problem. If I receive any push notifications while I have no internet access they never arrive even when I get back internet. I'm pretty sure this isn't what it was like on 3.1.3. I'm running 4.0.1 iPhone 4

are you stock, jailbroken, unlocked, attt sim activated, hacktivated?


mine is jb, unlocked on Tmo, att sim activated.

 

[moussekateer]

are you stock, jailbroken, unlocked, attt sim activated, hacktivated?


mine is jb, unlocked on Tmo, att sim activated.

I'm jailbroken, no unlock, normal activation. This is really bugging me so I'm going to restore my phone to stock and see what the problem is. I'll report back

 

[moussekateer]

I can confirm this is the same behaviour on stock 4.0.1. Which is frustrating because I'm 99% sure this isn't how it was on 3.x.

 

[Toby Goodbar]

I can confirm this is the same behaviour on stock 4.0.1. Which is frustrating because I'm 99% sure this isn't how it was on 3.x.

i have that same feeling. i remember when i used to use IM apps on my phone that if i went out of range they would "update / catch up" to me when i had carrier net or wifi range again.

maybe this is another bug?

 

[moussekateer]

i have that same feeling. i remember when i used to use IM apps on my phone that if i went out of range they would "update / catch up" to me when i had carrier net or wifi range again.

maybe this is another bug?

Well I've just checked on my 3.1.3 3G and the notifications DO come in after regaining signal/switching notifications back on. So it looks likely that it's a bug with 4.x. Gonna fire off an email to Apple and ask

 

[zhenya]

Push notifications are showing up for me after re-connection on 4.01 iPhone 4g, so it's not universal.

 

[moussekateer]

Push notifications are showing up for me after re-connection on 4.01 iPhone 4g, so it's not universal.

That's odd because I've gone back to stock 4.0.1 and the problem still persists. I can't see it being a hardware problem so what's going on....

 

[Toby Goodbar]

Push notifications are showing up for me after re-connection on 4.01 iPhone 4g, so it's not universal.

JB'd? carrier? which push apps are you using?

That's odd because I've gone back to stock 4.0.1 and the problem still persists. I can't see it being a hardware problem so what's going on....

i would definately say its not a hardware problem. which push apps are you using?

its IS odd.

 

[moussekateer]

I've got a few. I've tested with Beejive, Facebook and pushme.to by sending myself messages. Any that I send while I have no reception/notifications are off I never receive. I've tried literally everything, messing around with all the setting s to pinpoint the problem, even going back to stock and setting the phone up as new but the problem continues.

 

[zhenya]

JB'd? carrier? which push apps are you using?

Stock, AT&T, presently roaming internationally, so mostly using wifi. Push apps include Beejive and Skype.

 

[poohbear19]

are you stock, jailbroken, unlocked, attt sim activated, hacktivated?


Mine is jb, unlocked on tmo, att sim activated.

omg how do you get your push to work on tmobile?!?!?

 

[MaxBurn]

omg how do you get your push to work on tmobile?!?!?

I think the key is the "att sim activated" portion you quoted. From what I read hactivation has problems.

 

[Toby Goodbar]

omg how do you get your push to work on tmobile?!?!?

get push doctor from cydia

 

[applefanDrew]

Or if you want an Apple product to work like it's supposed to, don't jailbreak it and use it the way it is intended to be used.

 

[Toby Goodbar]

Or if you want an Apple product to work like it's supposed to, don't jailbreak it and use it the way it is intended to be used.

your comment is completely un-constructive as well as uncalled for. not everyone can afford to pay ATT $120/month plus taxes over 2 years and others have better things to spend it on or believe in saving it. Nor is it required that they do so, since its been ruled iphones can be legally jailbroken.

 

[Applejuiced]

ok, in order for push notification to work, i understand there needs to be an active internet connection either through wifi or carrier.

Thats the important part above^
And sometimes push notifications are not always dependable and they dont always go thru even with valid AT&T sims.

 

[applefanDrew]

your comment is completely un-constructive as well as uncalled for. not everyone can afford to pay ATT $120/month plus taxes over 2 years and others have better things to spend it on or believe in saving it. Nor is it required that they do so, since its been ruled iphones can be legally jailbroken.

yea. I pay $75/month with 2gb data and 1500 messaging.

Plus my point is, if you use a company's product in a way they don't intend, then it may not work correctly and you should not be surprised or upset over it.

 

[Pinkstiletto66]

My push doesnt always come through (using wifi.) Sometimes I just happen to go into the app, and boom, theres a new message. I get no notification, no "bloop bloop" sound.. What can I do? TX!!!

 

[applefanDrew]

Overall, push notifications are unreliable. Perhaps Apple will make it better with iOS 5 somehow?

 

[qzilver]

does anyone know if push notification still uses up battery if there is no internet connection available either through wifi or 3g. Also I sometimes turn notifications off and then when I turn it back on say in the morning I get push notifications does that mean push is still running on the server side even when I have it set to off on my iphone which means I will get all the notifications I missed after i turn back my push back on?

 

[calvy]

push notifications aren't reliable at all. I'm currently at my parents house, where they get signal via a 3G microcell because they live way out in the country and can't get a good signal without one. Anyway, push notifications don't seem to work worth a damn when I'm on the 3G microcell, even with wifi on. And they only partially work when I'm at my own home with perfect 3G reception and wifi on.

This experience is both jailbroken and nonjailbroken, both on valid AT&T accounts.