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Correct me if I'm wrong, but calendar events sync over MobileMe at the moment, and they certainly don't have the number notification badges on the main screen when they do...?

If you receive an emailed invitation with a calender event attached (.ics), this shows up as a "new event" in a similar fashion in iCal. Perhaps this is the same, but on the iPhone.
 
I want push notifications so bad!!! However, I think that would be a 2.3 update, or maybe a macworld 3.0 update along with sideways SMS and email.
 
I still dont get how and why apple calls this "push". Its not push!!! Its your iPhone constantly begging for information from a server. Thats not push...

Battery complaints incoming!
 
I still dont get how and why apple calls this "push". Its not push!!! Its your iPhone constantly begging for information from a server. Thats not push...

Battery complaints incoming!

No. Push is the opposite. The iPhone doesn't constantly poll the server. When new data is ready, it's pushed to the iPhone and the iPhone downloads it.
 
I still dont get how and why apple calls this "push". Its not push!!! Its your iPhone constantly begging for information from a server. Thats not push...

Battery complaints incoming!

It is push, but it does it by keeping a connection alive with the server (via a heartbeat packet). It still sucks your battery dry because of the radio being more active than normal.

Unless this is driven by some other mechanism worked out with AT&T, that is.
 
In case anyone is wondering, I went ahead and jailbroke my iPod touch for this thread to swap the icons for Mail and Notes to see how a badge would REALLY look on Notes WITHOUT Photoshopping to shut up those who are screaming Photoshop on this. Here is a screenshot I took.

I swear to you that this screenshot is legit. It's 2.2 with Mail and Notes icons swapped... so Notes is actually just MobileMail.app in disguise.
 

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So, what is the equivalent of Notes on the Mac that this would be synced or pushed with.

Is this like "To Do" in iCal or "Tasks" in Outlook

Mail has an option for notes.

The picture doesn't show the contacts app. I don't believe that app can be removed from the phone so I thing this picture is a fake.

By default, contacts is listed on the 2nd page of iPhone apps on an iPhone that hasn't been used yet.
 
It is push, but it does it by keeping a connection alive with the server (via a heartbeat packet). It still sucks your battery dry because of the radio being more active than normal.

Unless this is driven by some other mechanism worked out with AT&T, that is.

If you are already using MobileMe, then it's not going to suck your power down any more. Plus, doesn't the phone have to be "kept alive" to receive a phone call anyway? The power difference isn't that significant.
 
In case anyone is wondering, I went ahead and jailbroke my iPod touch for this thread to swap the icons for Mail and Notes to see how a badge would REALLY look on Notes WITHOUT Photoshopping to shut up those who are screaming Photoshop on this. Here is a screenshot I took.

I swear to you that this screenshot is legit. It's 2.2 with Mail and Notes icons swapped... so Notes is actually just MobileMail.app in disguise.

why it suck
 
Fake - confirmed

The author of the post on the russian website has officially acknowledged (in the forum thread) that it IS a fake. Not a Photoshop trick though - he used Erica Utilities on a jailbroken phone to run the "badge MobileNotes 3" command for Notes, and similarly for the Calendar. This allows to add a badge with about anything in it - just put your text in place of "3". That forum thread shows a screenshot of the home screen where every app has a badge with [part of] it's own name.

But regardless of the method, it is officially fake.
 
Nothing like more push services killing your battery! woohoo!

I don't get why everyone is assuming this will take any extra battery than what the iPhone "push" functionality currently uses.

There will only ever be ONE push process on the iPhone, like there currently is. Keeping this connection open will not take any more battery than it currently does to keep the push connection open for email. The difference is that the SINGLE push connection will be usable by any app, not just mail.

Yes if you get a lot of notification battery life might be slightly less, due to the small amount of downloading done every time you receive one, but it's unlikely it'll make a huge difference. I thought that this was the entire point of a single, unified push system; to be gentle on the battery compared to having multiple push services or letting apps run in the background.

Anyway, I'm not sure how Apple are implementing push, but on my iPhone I've not noticed any difference in battery life since enabling push. But maybe I'm lucky.
 
Here's a comparison of my Notes icon with a badge and the article screenshot of the Notes icon cropped in the SAME PLACE so you can compare them. I suggest saving them to the computer and opening them both up in Preview and flick back and forth and you'll see they're identical.
 

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The author of the post on the russian website has officially acknowledged (in the forum thread) that it IS a fake. Not a Photoshop trick though - he used Erica Utilities on a jailbroken phone to run the "badge MobileNotes 3" command for Notes, and similarly for the Calendar. This allows to add a badge with about anything in it - just put your text in place of "3". That forum thread shows a screenshot of the home screen where every app has a badge with [part of] it's own name.

But regardless of the method, it is officially fake.

Good to know. It's funny when people immediately are like "Look at the shadows! Apple wouldn't make shadows like that!" Hahaha. It made me laugh.
 
No matter how many push apps you will have active, they won't draw any more battery power than one single push app. So if you are using push EMail now, adding any number of push apps won't affect battery at all. That's the beauty of it!

The thing is, all push apps will go through a single central connection. In a traditional system, each push app would have its own connection, and that takes resources. The new system will allow pushing without having the apps needing to run in the background. It's a good solution.

There is one drawback. When a push comes in, it can only do three things, but not the big thing. It can change the number on the icon badge, it can make a sound, and it can show an alert. But it can't actually launch the app and have it do something. The best you can do is show an alert, and a button on it will let the user launch the app - just like when you receive an SMS. Or it can just change the badge, like when you receive an EMail. When you think about it, this is a very small drawback indeed.
 
No matter how many push apps you will have active, they won't draw any more battery power than one single push app. So if you are using push EMail now, adding any number of push apps won't affect battery at all. That's the beauty of it!

The thing is, all push apps will go through a single central connection. In a traditional system, each push app would have its own connection, and that takes resources. The new system will allow pushing without having the apps needing to run in the background. It's a good solution.

There is one drawback. When a push comes in, it can only do three things, but not the big thing. It can change the number on the icon badge, it can make a sound, and it can show an alert. But it can't actually launch the app and have it do something. The best you can do is show an alert, and a button on it will let the user launch the app - just like when you receive an SMS. Or it can just change the badge, like when you receive an EMail. When you think about it, this is a very small drawback indeed.

I hope they add alerts to mail. I've never understood why it only makes a noise and shows a badge, but not display a message like when you get an SMS, or show up on the lock screen. You can see if you have a missed call, or text message but not if you have an email.
 
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