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MrRage

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Here are some pics of the new quado. So far so good, just make sure to install the drivers before the card or you will hate life - as I did after I realized it was a requirement.

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Xbench:
Results	251.00	
	System Info		
		Xbench Version		1.3
		System Version		10.5.7 (9J61)
		Physical RAM		16384 MB
		Model		MacPro3,1
		Drive Type		ST3750330NS
	Quartz Graphics Test	239.19	
		Line	208.53	13.88 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
		Rectangle	292.66	87.38 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
		Circle	242.86	19.80 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
		Bezier	232.79	5.87 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
		Text	233.75	14.62 Kchars/sec
	OpenGL Graphics Test	191.36	
		Spinning Squares	191.36	242.75 frames/sec
	User Interface Test	392.85	
		Elements	392.85	1.80 Krefresh/sec

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NVIDIA Quadro FX 4800:
  Chipset Model:	NVIDIA Quadro FX 4800
  Type:	Display
  Bus:	PCIe
  Slot:	Slot-1
  PCIe Lane Width:	x16
  VRAM (Total):	1536 MB
  Vendor:	NVIDIA (0x10de)
  Device ID:	0x05fe
  Revision ID:	0x00a1
  ROM Revision:	3426
  Displays:
Cinema HD:
  Resolution:	1920 x 1200
  Depth:	32-Bit Color
  Core Image:	Hardware Accelerated
  Main Display:	Yes
  Mirror:	Off
  Online:	Yes
  Quartz Extreme:	Supported
  Rotation:	Supported
Cinema HD:
  Resolution:	1920 x 1200
  Depth:	32-Bit Color
  Core Image:	Hardware Accelerated
  Mirror:	Off
  Online:	Yes
  Quartz Extreme:	Supported
  Rotation:	Supported
 

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Awesome! I want one :D

Unfortunately, I'm not that rich or in need of that much power, so I'll be going for a 285 GTX. Especially if it stops my mouse cursor from jumping all over the place.

How do these results compare when using the card in Windows? Are the Apple drivers decent?

:apple:
 
Congratz dude!

Here are some pics of the new quado. So far so good, just make sure to install the drivers before the card or you will hate life - as I did after I realized it was a requirement.
Code:
Xbench:
Results	251.00	
	System Info		
		Xbench Version		1.3
		System Version		10.5.7 (9J61)
		Physical RAM		16384 MB
		Model 			MacPro3,1
		Drive Type		ST3750330NS

	Quartz Graphics Test	239.19	
		Line			208.53	13.88 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
		Rectangle		292.66	87.38 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
		Circle			242.86	19.80 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
		Bezier			232.79	5.87 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
		Text			233.75	14.62 Kchars/sec

	OpenGL Graphics Test	191.36	
		Spinning Squares	191.36	242.75 frames/sec

	User Interface Test	392.85	
		Elements		392.85	1.80 Krefresh/sec
Here's mine. The 7300GT:
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Results	237.57	
	System Info		
		Xbench Version		1.3
		System Version		10.5.7 (9J61)
		Physical RAM		12288 MB
		Model			MacPro1,1
		Drive Type		Macintosh RB

	Quartz Graphics Test	234.99	
		Line			178.29	11.87 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
		Rectangle		244.03	72.85 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
		Circle			197.41	16.09 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
		Bezier			193.98	4.89 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
		Text			740.79	46.34 Kchars/sec

	OpenGL Graphics Test	182.21	
		Spinning Squares	182.21	231.14 frames/sec

	User Interface Test	346.75	
		Elements		346.75	1.59 Krefresh/sec

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NVIDIA Quadro FX 4800:

  Chipset Model:		NVIDIA Quadro FX 4800
  Type:				Display
  Bus:				PCIe
  Slot:				Slot-1
  PCIe Lane Width:		x16
  VRAM (Total):			1536 MB
  Vendor:			NVIDIA (0x10de)
  Device ID:			0x05fe
  Revision ID:			0x00a1
  ROM Revision:			3426
  Displays:

Cinema HD:
  Resolution:			1920 x 1200
  Depth:			32-Bit Color
  Core Image:			Hardware Accelerated
  Main Display:			Yes
  Mirror:			Off
  Online:			Yes
  Quartz Extreme:		Supported
  Rotation:			Supported

Cinema HD:
  Resolution:			1920 x 1200
  Depth:			32-Bit Color
  Core Image:			Hardware Accelerated
  Mirror:			Off
  Online:			Yes
  Quartz Extreme:		Supported
  Rotation:			Supported

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NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT:

  Chipset Model:		NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT
  Type:				Display
  Bus:				PCIe
  Slot:				Slot-1
  PCIe Lane Width:		x16
  VRAM (Total):			256 MB
  Vendor:			NVIDIA (0x10de)
  Device ID:			0x0393
  Revision ID:			0x00a1
  ROM Revision:			3008
  Displays:

L246WH:
  Resolution:			1920 x 1200 @ 60 Hz
  Depth:			32-Bit Color
  Core Image:			Hardware Accelerated
  Main Display:			Yes
  Mirror:			Off
  Online:			Yes
  Quartz Extreme:		Supported
  Rotation:			Supported
  Television:			Yes

L246WH:
  Resolution:			1920 x 1200 @ 60 Hz
  Depth:			32-Bit Color
  Core Image:			Hardware Accelerated
  Mirror:			Off
  Online:			Yes
  Quartz Extreme:		Supported
  Rotation:			Supported
  Television:			Yes
 
Well this is what CINEBENCH had to say. Is it just me or does the OpenGL score look low?

Code:
CINEBENCH R10
****************************************************

Tester           : 

Processor        : 
MHz              : 
Number of CPUs   : 8
Operating System : OS X 32 BIT 10.5.7

Graphics Card    : NVIDIA Quadro FX 4800 OpenGL Engine
Resolution       : <fill this out>
Color Depth      : <fill this out>

****************************************************
Rendering (Single   CPU): 3211 CB-CPU 
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 18650 CB-CPU 
Multiprocessor Speedup: 5.81
Shading (OpenGL Standard)          : 5526 CB-GFX 
****************************************************
 
Well this is what CINEBENCH had to say. Is it just me or does the OpenGL score look low?

Code:
CINEBENCH R10
****************************************************

Tester           : 

Processor        : 
MHz              : 
Number of CPUs   : 8
Operating System : OS X 32 BIT 10.5.7

Graphics Card    : NVIDIA Quadro FX 4800 OpenGL Engine
Resolution       : <fill this out>
Color Depth      : <fill this out>

****************************************************
Rendering (Single   CPU): 3211 CB-CPU 
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 18650 CB-CPU 
Multiprocessor Speedup: 5.81
Shading (OpenGL Standard)          : 5526 CB-GFX 
****************************************************

That's excellent! That's 2x what I get - which in an app like cinebench is great I think!

Code:
CINEBENCH R10
****************************************************

Tester           : Tesselator

Processor        : 
MHz              : 2660
Number of CPUs   : 8
Operating System : OS X 32 BIT 10.5.7

Graphics Card    : NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT OpenGL Engine
Resolution       : <fill this out>
Color Depth      : <fill this out>

****************************************************

Rendering (Single   CPU): --- CB-CPU 
Rendering (Multiple CPU): --- CB-CPU 


Shading (OpenGL Standard)          : 2803 CB-GFX 


****************************************************
 
I f you can run the benchmarks under OpenGL extensions viewer I would also be interested in that! With the OpenGl 2.0 test my 8800 GT does 2085 fps and my GTX 285 does 3678 fps (despite a link speed of only 2.5 GT/s under a Core Vidia boot - details in the shot).(That was with default settings with a 23in ACD at 1920x1200, not the ones given by netkas)

Edited in response to netkas comment below: I have set all the other parameters to the ones requested, but connected to the 23 ACD I cannot get above 1920by1200 - netkas' display is about 78% larger of course.
 

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I f you can run the benchmarks under OpenGL extensions viewer I would also be interested in that! With the OpenGl 2.0 test my 8800 GT does 2085 fps and my GTX 285 does 3678 fps (despite a link speed of only 2.5 GT/s under a Core Vidia boot - details in the shot).(That was with default settings with a 23in ACD at 1920x1200, not the ones given by netkas)

do u have those drivers ? if so, can share them ?

btw, on ur screenshot results is very cpu dependent, set options like on this screenshot - http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=171601&d=1242710006
 
New Mac Champ...the Quadro !!!

Dumbed my 4890 down to 1920x1200.


(BTW, I have a set of 3.0 5160's ready to go in...just gotta get the T-15 wrench...we'll see how CPU dependent the numbers are then)

Hopefully Mr. Rage can dump the ROM for us, eager to see if it is 64bit only...could likely be used for other GPUs in same family...though perhaps why 285 is coming out.
 

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My 4870 got better results than the FX4800 on Xbench. Here are my scores:

Results 287.31
System Info
Xbench Version 1.3
System Version 10.5.7 (9J61)
Physical RAM 2048 MB
Model MacPro3,1
Drive Type WDC WD5000AAKS-41YGA0
Quartz Graphics Test 283.85
Line 219.21 14.59 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 292.62 87.36 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 237.72 19.38 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 232.28 5.86 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 889.48 55.64 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 217.20
Spinning Squares 217.20 275.53 frames/sec
User Interface Test 432.06
Elements 432.06 1.98 Krefresh/sec

And I only have two gigs of ram. Seems the 4870 is better:confused:
 
Barefeats would you mind posting the GT200 drivers for people that wanna use PC Cards in their mac pro ? just like the radeon 4890, i'm sure many people would love to use a PC GTX285 on OSX.

dude...guess you don't get it.

drivers are in the OS

It's the ROM file that makes the cards work in EFI....and quite possible that they suffer the 64K/128K ROM chip or some other means of keeping the Mac version separate from PC version.

In any case, Rob would likely irritate the very companies who send him trial products if he ran around posting ROM files and ways to "beat the system"...ie cut out the very middlemen who advertise on his site.
 
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drivers are in the OS
I think you are mistaken, at least in the case of the latest Nvidia cards. I agree with your comment that it is the ROM that enables a proper EFI boot under a regular Mac. However, the OS also has to have the software to drive the card properly. This might be the case for the ATI 4870 class but it is not for the 4800/285 under 10.5.7 - unless you can tell me that there are some hidden files that it is only necessary to unmask?

All users of Nvidia 200 series PC GPUs are waiting to see if we can get our paws on the new 10.5.7-compatible drivers for the 4800 and 285 that appear so far only on the CDs that ship with the cards. We have to hope that Nvidia will put them in the public domain (more likely with the 285?), and then most of us will be able to load our cards with the software provided by Xdarwin and netkas. A ROM to trying flashing with to get boot functionality and 100% compatibility is of course highly desirable.
 
You are correct, it seems the drivers aren't out yet. I apologize.

It would be best to ask the thread starter to post them, or wait for them to show up in a torrent.

Someone could even send them anonymously to Netkas.....
 
btw , this drivers already present in snow leopard (and no, they cant be backported from snow to leo, we need leo's drivers)
 
Yeah Snow Leopard has built in drivers for GT200 cards (GTX260 tested by me) but Leopard 10.5.7 we need that CD that comes with the card in order to make it to work for the rest of us, with this driver you can have your GTX285 working in your mac pro, so can somebody post that CD :).
 
Code:
CINEBENCH R10
****************************************************

Tester           : 

Processor        : 
MHz              : 
Number of CPUs   : 8
Operating System : OS X 32 BIT 10.5.7

Graphics Card    : NVIDIA Quadro FX 4800 OpenGL Engine
Resolution       : <fill this out>
Color Depth      : <fill this out>

****************************************************
Rendering (Single   CPU): 3211 CB-CPU 
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 18650 CB-CPU 
Multiprocessor Speedup: 5.81
Shading (OpenGL Standard)          : 5526 CB-GFX 
****************************************************

That's great, thanks! (Does this work in the 2006 Mac Pros, I wonder. Good news for the GeForce 285 if it does)

Here's what I get from my newly-delivered ATi Radeon 4870 in a 2006 Mac Pro (working great, I'm happy to say), for comparison to the Quadro 4800:

Code:
CINEBENCH R10
****************************************************

Tester           : 

Processor        : 
MHz              : 2.66GHz
Number of CPUs   : 4
Operating System : OS X 32 BIT 10.5.7

Graphics Card    : ATI Radeon HD 4870 OpenGL Engine
Resolution       : <fill this out>
Color Depth      : <fill this out>

****************************************************

Rendering (Single   CPU): 2885 CB-CPU 
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 9805 CB-CPU 

Multiprocessor Speedup: 3.40

Shading (OpenGL Standard)          : 5332 CB-GFX 


****************************************************
 
This is what I got when I ran the test.
 

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